The Virus - Are You Affected?

[Jimmy Higgins]

So in Ohio, there will be day cares opening on the 31st of May. Gov. Dewine notes that they aren't certain how well it'll work. I mean the whole idea of day cares having clean conditions so as not to allow disease to spread with the children seems to completely not understand that kids that go to day cares spread a lot of disease.

The great news? Horse track racing can resume May 22nd, though with no spectators! I'm not saying that allowing such a thing is wrong... but I'm thinking that it would be one of those things that'd be low on a list of priorities for reopening, unless say a lobbyist was high on Gov. Dewine's phone call list. And I'm not thinking it is a the jockey's union.

 

[TSwizzle]

The Bundesliga returns this weekend.

After a two-month delay due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Bundesliga will become the first major European soccer league to return to action, resuming the 2019-20 season this Saturday. There's still a lot of anxiety and uncertainty with the proceedings -- not every player loves the idea, and second-division team Dynamo Dresden had to enter a two-week quarantine last weekend following a couple of positive tests -- but thus far, the first division's tentative schedule for completing its final nine matchdays remains a go for launch.

ESPN

Empty stadiums obviously but it's a start.

 

[Politesse]

The horses themselves will only be maintained for so long, without commercial revenue to fund and justify their lives; I can see where legislators would be facing pressure. The HBPA has been paying their expenses on charity, but only to the end of this month, when they will run out of funds to do so.

 

[TV and credit cards]

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I'm watching that one... the last week in May will tell a story. A partial story (the Republican legislature will do all they can to suppress case and mortality data) but a story nonetheless.

They can’t hide the bodies. And it can’t be too hard to determine how many died from Covid-19 using historical data.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The horses themselves will only be maintained for so long, without commercial revenue to fund and justify their lives; I can see where legislators would be facing pressure. The HBPA has been paying their expenses on charity, but only to the end of this month, when they will run out of funds to do so.

You've got to be kidding me! Also, how did you know this?

 

[Politesse]

The horses themselves will only be maintained for so long, without commercial revenue to fund and justify their lives; I can see where legislators would be facing pressure. The HBPA has been paying their expenses on charity, but only to the end of this month, when they will run out of funds to do so.

You've got to be kidding me! Also, how did you know this?

I am not a big horse guy myself, but I know a bit about the business from family, and also read an article about the situation not too long ago, at least as it stands in their county (Mahoning). Will see if I can track it down.

It's just one of those wicked little things; the horses are generally expected to pay not just their own room and board, but their riders as well, many of whom do not exactly own a horse ranch of their own but are renting and borrowing their way around the circuit.

 

[ZiprHead]

And the data shows that we have peaked, the curve is not only flat but is in a downward trend. So there is no need for the absurd, irrational and draconian lockdown.

HTF do you think we got to this point?

 

[TSwizzle]

And the data shows that we have peaked, the curve is not only flat but is in a downward trend. So there is no need for the absurd, irrational and draconian lockdown.

HTF do you think we got to this point?

It's dubious that the lockdown is the reason, Sweden tells us that. But suppose it was the lockdown. If it has achieved it's goal/purpose, (and remember WHY the lockdown was put in place) why is the lockdown still in place ? Why has it become a never ending lockdown ?

 

[crazyfingers]

And the data shows that we have peaked, the curve is not only flat but is in a downward trend. So there is no need for the absurd, irrational and draconian lockdown.

HTF do you think we got to this point?

And once again, if you take NY and possibly NJ out and look at the rest of the country, the trend is still UP!

 

[Angry Floof]

This might have been posted, but worth a read if you haven't seen it.

This Is Not the Apocalypse You Were Looking For

The end of the world has never been quite so simple a mythos for women, likely because most of us know that when social structures crack and shatter, what happens isn’t an instant reversion to muscular state-of-naturism. What happens is that women and carers of all genders quietly exhaust themselves filling in the gaps, trying to save as many people as possible from physical and mental collapse. The people on the front line are not fighters. They are healers and carers. The very people whose work is rarely paid in proportion to its importance are the ones we really need when the dung hits the Dyson. Nurses, doctors, cleaners, drivers. Emotional and domestic labor have never been part of the grand story men have told themselves about the destiny of the species—not even when they imagine its grave.

 

[Elixir]

They can’t hide the bodies.

Watch 'em try.

And it can’t be too hard to determine how many died from Covid-19 using historical data.

One could extrapolate from expected vs actual deaths in any given area to get a rough idea. Reductions to average life expectancy stats will also be reflective of reality.

 

[Emily Lake]

Isn’t it about 1 in 30 need hospitalization? Of course, 3% of the US is 10 million people.

Last time I looked, it was about 15% to 20% of symptomatic cases.

 

[Emily Lake]

Funny how effective those scientists were against Ebola and H1N1 back when we had an actual leader who provided actual funding and human resources to address those problems from day one...

Obama did a fine job... but to be fair, we already had vaccines for influenza, so just needed to tailor one to a new strain, which is much easier than coming up with an effective vaccine from scratch. Additionally, Ebola and H1N1 are much less contagious and have much shorter incubation periods than COVID-19 does.

So, on the one hand, yeah, Obama did a good job and acted appropriately. On the other hand, if Obama were in charge during this pandemic, the timeline would still be a year or so until we get a vaccine and a whole lot of people sick.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Funny how effective those scientists were against Ebola and H1N1 back when we had an actual leader who provided actual funding and human resources to address those problems from day one...

Obama did a fine job... but to be fair, we already had vaccines for influenza, so just needed to tailor one to a new strain, which is much easier than coming up with an effective vaccine from scratch. Additionally, Ebola and H1N1 are much less contagious and have much shorter incubation periods than COVID-19 does.

So, on the one hand, yeah, Obama did a good job and acted appropriately. On the other hand, if Obama were in charge during this pandemic, the timeline would still be a year or so until we get a vaccine and a whole lot of people sick.

Unless action was taken quicker which eliminated the virus is the US. Shutting down March 1 would have made that possible. There still is no vaccine, but there is 1.5 million cases either.

 

[Emily Lake]

Funny how effective those scientists were against Ebola and H1N1 back when we had an actual leader who provided actual funding and human resources to address those problems from day one...

Obama did a fine job... but to be fair, we already had vaccines for influenza, so just needed to tailor one to a new strain, which is much easier than coming up with an effective vaccine from scratch. Additionally, Ebola and H1N1 are much less contagious and have much shorter incubation periods than COVID-19 does.

So, on the one hand, yeah, Obama did a good job and acted appropriately. On the other hand, if Obama were in charge during this pandemic, the timeline would still be a year or so until we get a vaccine and a whole lot of people sick.

Unless action was taken quicker which eliminated the virus is the US. Shutting down March 1 would have made that possible. There still is no vaccine, but there is 1.5 million cases either.

I am not inclined to believe that shutting down March 1 would have eradicated the virus in the US. Where are you getting your information from?

 

[Keith&Co.]

I am not inclined to believe that shutting down March 1 would have eradicated the virus in the US. Where are you getting your information from?

Also, remember Jade Helm? There's no way Obama could have shut anything down without immediate and assinine overreaction by the nutburgers.
Out there with their anti-black helicopter systems, shooting down crop dusters and border patrol aircraft...

 

[bilby]

And the data shows that we have peaked, the curve is not only flat but is in a downward trend. So there is no need for the absurd, irrational and draconian lockdown.

HTF do you think we got to this point?

The boat is lower in the water than it should be, but it's stopped sinking, so you guys who are furiously baling out are idiotic to waste all that effort.

 

[bilby]

And the data shows that we have peaked, the curve is not only flat but is in a downward trend. So there is no need for the absurd, irrational and draconian lockdown.

HTF do you think we got to this point?

It's dubious that the lockdown is the reason, Sweden tells us that. But suppose it was the lockdown. If it has achieved it's goal/purpose, (and remember WHY the lockdown was put in place) why is the lockdown still in place ? Why has it become a never ending lockdown ?

Because you can't stop baling out until you start plugging some of the leaks.

This isn't rocket surgery. I find it astonishing that this isn't bleeding obvious to you.

While there are infected people who don't know that they are infected, and while there's no way other than avoiding them to prevent them from infecting you, the lockdown is the only alternative to exponential growth in number of infections.

It's working - the growth is no longer exponential. But nothing other than the continuing lockdown is keeping it from returning to exponential growth. Nothing else has been done. There's no vaccine, no treatment, no way to prevent this disease from ripping through the population - except the continuing lockdown.

 

[DrZoidberg]

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[Jimmy Higgins]

I am not inclined to believe that shutting down March 1 would have eradicated the virus in the US. Where are you getting your information from?

Also, remember Jade Helm? There's no way Obama could have shut anything down without immediate and assinine overreaction by the nutburgers.
Out there with their anti-black helicopter systems, shooting down crop dusters and border patrol aircraft...

I did mean to continue my thought to include that. Because indeed, the protests would have been ferocious. Heck, the mindset of these idiots is so bad, they are protesting Republican Governors!