Trump Will Likely Win

[trillian]

Most of the doom and gloom is the same as 2016...and none of it happened then. He threatens the machine and it will thrash when he wins even more than when he campaigns. There should be enough to criticize him on facts, but the lies just get more and more outrageous. The country will be just fine.

If people are just looking at the legacy media through a hatred of Trump, then they are likely going to think half the voters are some selfish bigoted racist imbeciles.... or other such nonsense ...and nothing I say will change it. It is popular among supposed 'critical thinkers' to declare what a Trump voter believes, and how they think about the issues.. and then fling many derogatory names at them.

And that is fine, because I am not in favor to censor it or otherwise punish the speaker.

I'm a woman, a mother to a teen girl, an atheist. I can see both sides of the argument.

I enthusiastically voted Trump! And he is winning.

 

[Elixir]

And he is winning.

Delusion rears its ugly head.
There’s no way you can know that he’s winning.
But I’m sure the apricot agrees. Even if he is getting BIGLY routed.

 

[Elixir]

Most of the doom and gloom is the same as 2016...and none of it happened then.

Other than a million dead Americans, thousands of kids lost in his family separations, leaving office with fewer Americans employed than when he took office, most of his appointees in jail…
Yeah - nothing happened.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Most of the doom and gloom is the same as 2016...and none of it happened then.

Well, no wall, no infrastructure bill, no replacement of ACA, no repeal of ACA.

Oh you meant the issues of destabilizing our democracy. Like what he did and had people chanting to murder the Vice President after the US electorate fired him. Yeah, I can see the "both sides" there.

He threatens the machine and it will thrash when he wins even more than when he campaigns. There should be enough to criticize him on facts, but the lies just get more and more outrageous. The country will be just fine.

Dude is suggesting making RFK Jr head of HHS.

If people are just looking at the legacy media through a hatred of Trump, then they are likely going to think half the voters are some selfish bigoted racist imbeciles.... or other such nonsense ...and nothing I say will change it. It is popular among supposed 'critical thinkers' to declare what a Trump voter believes, and how they think about the issues.. and then fling many derogatory names at them.

Yes, because you need to be critical of people who don't like Trump, because you sure the heck are incapable of actually SUPPORTING Trump and his policies. Because other than his plan to try and send millions of people out of the country, he doesn't actually have any policies to promote. That is why all the ads for the GOP in my area had nothing to do with future policies. Just transgenders and defund the police.

I'm a woman, a mother to a teen girl, an atheist. I can see both sides of the argument.

Both sides of the argument? What argument? Dude says the election was stolen from him in 2020 and he didn't even contest that in court! Trump is the biggest non-argument ever. He just emotes. He doesn't actually make a case. Just like his supporters. They can't explain why they support Trump, or at least, not out loud... or at least they didn't. With the latest drive from the right of wives are "cheating" on their husbands by voting differently than them, they might start saying more of what they really think out loud.

I enthusiastically voted Trump! And he is winning.

This is to be determined. Even the pollsters have little clue what will happen. Anyone that says they know, are an idiot or lying.

 

[ZiprHead]

Most of the doom and gloom is the same as 2016...and none of it happened then.

Other than a million dead Americans, thousands of kids lost in his family separations, leaving office with fewer Americans employed than when he took office, most of his appointees in jail…
Yeah - nothing happened.

Yup.

The willful blindness of Trumpers astounds me.

 

[Elixir]

They can't explain why they support Trump

It’s right there between the lines.
In “black and white”.

 

[Gospel]

Maybe Kamala will be the first Democrat to lose the popular vote and still win the presidency—it’s about time it happened for their side. Republicans are currently 4-0 in that department.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Maybe Kamala will be the first Democrat to lose the popular vote and still win the presidency—it’s about time it happened for their side. Republicans are currently 4-0 in that department.

I saw an article about that. I remember being a rare voice suggesting Gore could lose the EV and win the popular vote in 2000. I wasn't exactly predicting it, but figured it seemed more likely. W was actually being presented in the media as falling under that category as losing the EV but taking the popular vote. I think it is effectively impossible for Harris to lose the popular vote and win the Electoral College. It'd require Trump winning Georgia, North Carolina, Texas, and Florida by much larger amounts than he did in 2020, about 8 to 10 pct pts more. I don't see him pulling that off and not winning the EV.

 

[Derec]

Trump? Let’s just say there currently aren’t any Republican candidates who can rally the MAGA base quite like he can. To my knowledge, no efforts have been made to anticipate that.

Isn't Vance being groomed for that role?

 

[ZiprHead]

Maybe Kamala will be the first Democrat to lose the popular vote and still win the presidency—it’s about time it happened for their side. Republicans are currently 4-0 in that department.

I saw an article about that. I remember being a rare voice suggesting Gore could lose the EV and win the popular vote in 2000. I wasn't exactly predicting it, but figured it seemed more likely. W was actually being presented in the media as falling under that category as losing the EV but taking the popular vote. I think it is effectively impossible for Harris to lose the popular vote and win the Electoral College. It'd require Trump winning Georgia, North Carolina, Texas, and Florida by much larger amounts than he did in 2020, about 8 to 10 pct pts more. I don't see him pulling that off and not winning the EV.

I don't think it could happen but I would just absolutely love to see the righty's heads explode.

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump? Let’s just say there currently aren’t any Republican candidates who can rally the MAGA base quite like he can. To my knowledge, no efforts have been made to anticipate that.

Isn't Vance being groomed for that role?

Groom all they want. There is no substitute for the real thing.

 

[Gospel]

Trump? Let’s just say there currently aren’t any Republican candidates who can rally the MAGA base quite like he can. To my knowledge, no efforts have been made to anticipate that.

Isn't Vance being groomed for that role?

Bruh, Vance looks like the kind of white guy rednecks would chase off their property with a shotgun! I’ve seen that exact scenario play out while installing a water infiltration system out in Bithlo, Florida.

 

[Derec]

Walz was selected for Wisconsin and Michigan with crossover appeal to Pennsylvania.

Let's be honest. The Knucklehead was selected because he said "weird", and that fit Kamala's "vibes and memes" style of campaigning. Before then, he was not on the short list. He wasn't even one of the options on the IIDB's veepstakes poll from July.
I do not think he has much pull in either WI or MI, much less PA. Certainly less so than a popular governor like Josh Shapiro.
She might still win these states, but things are much closer than they should have been.

I doubt the DNC is taking a single vote for granted. 2016 happened.

One of the problems in 2016 is that a lot of Dems were pissed off that DNC put their finger on the scale for Hillary. So what do Dems do this time? Not have competitive primaries at all, but select the nominee by fiat. That is not fixing the problems of 2016.

Trump is trying to get every bigoted vote available among the minorities. To me this is both evidence of Trump's desperation as internal polling is falling or he found a new niche and this direction will help him win.

Including appealing to Michigan Muslims who are mad at Biden and Harris for not just letting Hamas and Hezbollah slaughter Israelis.
Trump courts Arab and Muslim support, with Harris criticized for ‘not engaging’
Arab and Muslim Voters in Michigan: “I Can’t Overlook Genocide”

 

[Derec]

As I've said, there is a poll for everyone this year. Trump could be Dewey tomorrow night.

The guy who came up with those numbers of library books?

 

[Derec]

Sad. A miracle may happen. All of these polls and articles could be wrong. But I fear that Harris is such a poor candidate, and Biden was just too old and dropped out way too late. A year ago, I thought he shouldn’t run, and that Harris should not either. Make a back room deal where she gets to stay as veep, and pick a stronger candidate who would have a much broader appeal and came across more boldly than her.

I agree, except for one thing. No deals. Biden should have withdrawn for 2024 in Summer 2023, but there is no reason why Kamala should not have thrown her hat in the ring and tried her mettle in another competitive primary. And even if she were to emerge victorious, she would have been a stronger candidate for having went through the crucible. "Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another". Proverbs 27:17.

hen when she was nominated I thought she should pick Shapiro. She didn’t, going for Walz, a good guy, but a governor of a fairly solid blue state. He didn’t help her ticket secure a needed swing state.

And didn't turn out to be that much help overall, I don't think. He was meh in the veep debate for example.