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Of course non of this would be relevant had crooked Hilary won would it?
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US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race
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lpetrich
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How is she much worse than Crooked Donald Trump?
angelo
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How is she more honest than Trump, and in what way? Or. Why was she more qualified to stand than say Sanders?
nah, you didnt, did you? Answer with another question.
congratulations to an awesome intellectual triumph...Sanders was too far left for many people. That's independent of their merits as people.
As for more honest than Trump--look at what the fact checkers say.
angelo
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I did. Both Trump and Killary were the most unpopular candidates for the American presidency ever! As for honesty, Killary just pips Trump.
Elixir
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No. Not even close. Trump lies almost all of the time - 69% of his statements are rated "mostly false" or worse. HRC gets those ratings 26% of time.
TRUMP:
The PolitiFact scorecard
True14 (4%)(14)
Mostly True38 (11%)(38)
Half True51 (15%)(51)
Mostly False63 (18%)(63)
False114 (33%)(114)
Pants on Fire62 (18%)(62)
HRC:
The PolitiFact scorecard
True72 (25%)(72)
Mostly True76 (26%)(76)
Half True69 (24%)(69)
Mostly False40 (14%)(40)
False29 (10%)(29)
Pants on Fire7 (2%)
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Sanders was not too far left, however the right wing propaganda would have sold him as such. Sanders is the candidate that America allegedly wants, but elected Trump instead.
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I think it's hilarious that Sanders is considered leftist in USA. He wouldn't be in Sweden.
He wouldn't be considered leftist in the US either. It's a shame that Americans have so much trouble realizing that.
fast
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Sanders wasn't a leftist? Y'all crazy as hell. He's a damn liberal. A full blooded liberal. His head came out the womb looking to the left. His momma had a titty smaller than the other. Guess which one--and why!
Yeah, Sanders is a leftist. Don't know what the motivation is to recast him as otherwise.
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Sanders isn't a leftist, except by the far-right standards of the USA - from which viewpoint almost everyone is a leftist.
https://origin-www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-01-19/in-europe-sanders-would-be-center-right
Sanders is a centre-right politician in an environment where being hard-right is considered dangerously left-wing and 'liberal'.
https://origin-www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-01-19/in-europe-sanders-would-be-center-right
Sanders is a centre-right politician in an environment where being hard-right is considered dangerously left-wing and 'liberal'.
Heh. It's like a Stalinist calling a Trotskyite center-right. Maybe to ideologies braying for purity; but to the rest of us, Sanders is a leftist.
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Your calling Sanders a leftist is exactly analogous to a Stalinist calling a Trotskyite center-right.
The 'rest of you' form a minority of the 5% of the world population who live in the USA.
By American standards Sanders is a leftist. Too many people found his ideas on redistribution as going too far, there was no way he would be elected. Trump would have won by a far greater margin if he had faced Sanders.
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Maybe. But that doesn't change the fact that 'American standards' are not the standards of 95% of humanity. Sanders is also an extraordinarily tall man, by the standards of the shortest 5% of the world population, and a young whippersnapper, by the standards of the oldest 5% of humanity.
fast
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Awe, so my judgement is through a myopic lens. I always use Earth minutes no matter what planet (or dwarf planet) I'm talking about--my bad.