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...there are ONLY two sexes. This is scientific reality.
No, it really isn't. It's not even particularly difficult to find exceptions. But there's none so blind as those who will not see.

"Scientific Reality" is reality as we observe it to be, not as we guess, hypothesise, or desire it to be.

For any and all definitions of sex, there are observable exceptions to the two most common categories, that render your claim false.
Bullshit. If you wish to claim otherwise, please bring forth your human who produces a third type of gamete. I'll even settle for a human that produces a sperg.

Go on, I'll wait.
 
Presenting that scientific reality as if it's just the "opinion" of some uppity women is flat-eartherism.
On the contrary; Presenting your opinion as if it's "scientific reality", without reference to the observations of reality that are an essential element of science, is flat-eartherism.

A single exception is sufficient to falsify your claim for any dichotomous definition of "sex"; And exceptions are easy to find (albeit fairly uncommon).
Then please, go ahead and present your exception to humans only being able to produce two distinct types of gametes, and having reproductive anatomy arranged around the production of one or the other - and never both - of those gametes.
 
Sex is defined by the type of gamete that an individual's reproductive anatomy is organized around,
OK, that's a good definition. It's falsifiable, so it qualifies as "scientific"; And it fits into your hypothesis "It is a physical impossibility for any single individual human to be both sexes", giving a falsifiable hypothesis. Yay, science!

even if that gamete does not actually get produced.
Ah, but then you fall down. You just added unfalsifiability to your definition, eliminating the scientific status of your claim. Why did you do that?
Because disingenuous arguers will inevitably make the childish claim that using gametes as a reference means that menopausal women are no longer female. Because dummies do dumb things.
A person with a female-typical uterus, fallopian tubes, vagina, etc. is considered by evolutionary biologists to be female, even if they don't have ovaries, even if their karyotype ends up being XY.
...and if that person also has a male-typical penis and testes, then they are simultaneously considered by those same evolutionary biologists to be male, assuming that those biologists are being consistent and not unscientific.
A single human being cannot have both a female-typical uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina AND ALSO have a male-typical penis and testes.

It's not possible. Those anatomies develop from the differentiation of the SAME TISSUES. For a person to have both male-typical and female-typical organs AT THE SAME TIME, they would have needed to have TWO FULL SETS OF TISSUE AS A FETUS.

Your claim is like saying a person can have both two completely brown eyes and two completely blue eyes at the exact same time - they'd have to have FOUR eyes to pull that off.
 
At some point behavior and identity will enter the conversation regarding personal identity. I just know it. Until then... let's continue discussing stuff that isn't the subject and pretend you are scoring points.
Behavior and identity are 100% irrelevant to our physical bodies. With perhaps a small exception for innate behavioral tendencies that have a basis in either inherited instinct or evolutionarily developed behaviors.
 
Why is it "gender-critical" people manage to know so little about the biology human bodies despite obsessing over them constantly?
Pick a body part, organ, or function and search for sex differences. There’s a lot. Five million years of sexually dimorphic evolution will do that. And the sex binary is much older than that. Feeling uncomfortable in one’s body doesn’t change that. It’s the gender cultist who are the flat earthers.
Yes, but the basic biological facts of sex differentiation have never greatly changed, and biology does not cater to cultural ideals of "needing" strict and non-everlapping sex characteristics. Not in any species, and certainly not in our own.
You're right - biology doesn't cater to whims and wishes. It simply is. And what it IS results in a strict sex binary among all mammals. That there are some cases where development goes awry does not in any fashion make sex NOT binary. Reproduction among mammals is evolutionarily dependent on that sex binary. You exist because of that sex binary. It does not, and cannot work any other way.
 
Incidentally, if the argument is "we should do things as most mammals do", we should not be wearing clothes at all, let alone building strictly but arbitrarily gender-divided clothing sections at the mall and instigating moral panic if a man wears a dress or women pants at the library. No other mammal would give a flying shit what we want to wear. That's religion, not biology, and only we do the religion thing.
Actshooally... You might want to think about this some. You know who drives and monitors GENDER binary divisions? Because it's not women. Women have been accepting of gender non-conforming women time out of mind, and women have always been more tolerant of gender non-conforming men than men are.

It is men who have defined and enforced gender roles, and who have bound women to subservient roles throughout history, and it is men who continue to police the boundaries of masculinity - ejecting with force those men who do not meet their arbitrary standards.
 
Incidentally, if the argument is "we should do things as most mammals do",

Who made this moral 'should' argument? Anybody on this thread? There's no 'should' about mammalian sex. It's just a brute fact that mammals have two sexes and an individual mammal cannot change sex.

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Well, yes we can.
No, we fucking cannot. Humans CANNOT change sex. It is not a thing. And don't go getting all semantical on us and start replacing literal language with figurative language, because you know goddamned good and well that a person who undergoes a figuratively-named sex change operation has not ACTUALLY changed sex.

Setting aside the fact that one does not need to change their sex in order to be a drag performer, we also have hormone replacement therapy. Why shouldn't humans do human things, if we can? We do, in any case. We do not, in fact, consistently copy other animals in form or behavior. Nor should we. Every species has unique characteristics all their own, and we certainly do.

And it is not a fact that mammals have "two sexes"; intersex characteristics can occur in all mammal species we've studied in this respect.
Applying exogenous hormones does NOT change ones sex. No amount of hormones will allow a male to produce eggs, nor to become pregnant, nor to gestate a fetus. No amount of testosterone is going to result in a female having a raging hard-on or a night-time ejaculation.

And once again, intersex conditions are NOT different sexes, nor are they actually in-between. Disorders of sex development are sex-specific conditions. No mammal ever studied has produced a third gamete, nor have any ever produced an in-between gamete.
 
Hormone replacement therapy does not change the sex of humans. Surgery excising body parts does not change the sex of humans. Literally no process whatsoever can change the sex of humans, because your sexual development pathway was determined in utero and is a fixed historical event, and my DeLorean's flux capacitor hasn't worked in years.
Only if you completely ignore the actual variation in how sex determination happens in humans. We are not, in fact, all XX or XY, nor does your chromosomal pattern determine your observable sex characteristics as consistently as uneducated people tend to imagine. And as far as we know, all or nearly all the variations that affect human sexual expression also affect at least some other mammals.

And drag shows aren't an expression of biological sex anyway.
Biological sex is not defined by karyotype! We've been through this already.

And no matter how much you blather on, mammals have two - and only two - sexes. There is no third sex, nor is there an in-between sex. These things do not exist. It is an imaginary argument made by people who are flagrantly swapping literal and figurative language to conflate an issue that underpins the existence of our entire species, as well as that of all other mammals and the overwhelming majority of vertebrates.
 
Differences in sexual development do not create a third sex. There is no third gamete type.
No, there are at least seven.
Oh, please, do educate us. What are these seven gametes that can be found in humans? Or how about just mammals - I'll give you the entire class of mammals so you can show me these seven gametes. Go on. I'll wait.
 
Nobody has ever been documented with both a functional ovary and a functional tesis.
... though it would explain that virgin Mary story...
:unsure::giggle::LOL:

Unfortunately, there's a higher likelihood that Mary had her hymen intact, and got knocked up from Joseph (or someone else) ejaculating on her labia. Because that actually can happen.
 
Nobody has ever been documented with both a functional ovary and a functional tesis.
... though it would explain that virgin Mary story...
:unsure::giggle::LOL:

Unfortunately, there's a higher likelihood that Mary had her hymen intact, and got knocked up from Joseph (or someone else) ejaculating on her labia. Because that actually can happen.
It's more likely she lied to avoid getting stoned to death, if she was ever real at all.
 
People do not produce exclusively sperms or eggs. Some produce both.
This is false. No humans produce BOTH. At the very most extreme edge of things, you might have a mosaic or chimera who has both testicular and ovarian tissue - but even if you overlook that this is a mixture of two individuals, they cannot simultaneously produce both sperm and ova. The level of testosterone required to produce sperm cells is toxic to ova. The level of estrogen required to maintain viable ova precludes the production of sperm.
You're not correct. Here's a Wiki, documenting the fact that there are true hermaphroditic individuals, at least some of whom are capable of reproducting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_hermaphroditism#:~:text=True hermaphroditism, sometimes referred to,containing both types of tissue.
1) they are not actually biological hermaphrodites, in the way the term is used by actual biologists.
2) they have both types of tissue present, but not both types of tissue functional at the same time
3) causes are predominantly chimerism and mosaicism, with a very few caused by DSDs - chimeras and mosaics contain cellular tissues from multiple sperm or multiple eggs - hence, technically not a single individual germ line
4) most people with ovotesticular disorder are phenotypically female, and only their ovarian tissue is functional
5) spermatogenesis has only been shown in TWO cases, ever
6) not a single on of the 11 documented cases of fertility has ever impregnated themselves

So let me reiterate what I said: No human produces BOTH EGGS AND SPERM.


Some species of animals do not have sex genes and temperature affects sex in some species.
No species of mammal has no sex genes.
No species of mammal has sex determined by temperature.

Humans are not reptiles. Nor are we clownfish. Nor are we algae.


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An unusual case of true hermaphroditism is reported. The patient was a 32-year-old phenotypically male true hermaphrodite. Histology of his removed ovary suggested that ovulation had, at some time, occurred. He had also fathered a child and this is believed to be the first case of a cytogenetically proved true hermaphrodite who is fertile as a male.”
 
Eventually many trans individuals go on to change a great deal more than clothing. Including legal identity.

But they can never change their sex. It is impossible. Introducing a legal fiction does not change that reality.
 
No and no. Neither of those animals change sex.
Drag performers don't change sex, they change clothes.
Correct.

The same is true of trans-identified people. They do not and cannot change sex.
That is correct. Which is why the language has shifted to refer to "Trans-identified people" more correctly as transgendered rather than transexual as was once common when we knew less. Welcome to the twenty-first century of the Common Era, Metaphor. What you are slowly and inconsistently discovering - that cultural interpretation and portrayals of sex characteristics differ from what an objective scientist can observe of chromosomal sex - has been well known to the scientific community for well over a century now. Which is why we have now adopted the convention of differentiating between "sex" and "gender" in English.
 
No and no. Neither of those animals change sex.
Drag performers don't change sex, they change clothes.
Correct.

The same is true of trans-identified people. They do not and cannot change sex.
That is corrct. Which is why the language has shifted to refer to "Trans-identified people" more correctly as transgendered rather than transexual as was once common when we knew less. Welcome to the twenty-first century of the Common Era, Metaphor. What you are discovering - that cultural interpretation and portrayals of sex characteristics differ from what an objective scientist can observe of chromosomal sex - has been well known to the scientific community for well over a century now. Which is why we have now adopted the convention of differentiating between "sex" and "gender" in English.
Politesse, I cannot fathom why you think you are imparting any new information to me, or why (except for rhetorical points, obviously) you keep bringing up 'chromosomal sex'--a red herring you introduced and seem to want to force down everyone's throats.

I have consistently differentiated between sex (something that every human has, and cannot change, and there are only two), sex-roles or gender roles (a societal and cultural expectation of people's behaviours, interests, and aesthetic choices based on their sex and to a lesser extent age and class) and 'gender identity', which is a thought in a person's head.

No human can change his or her sex. Legal fictions cannot change your sex. Your gender identity does not change your sex.
 
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