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I just watched the first 15 minutes and it seems very effective at playing to emotions to me:
That makes it pretty scary at how much he is milking this.
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I just watched the first 15 minutes and it seems very effective at playing to emotions to me:
That makes it pretty scary at how much he is milking this.
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He is a crazy good showman. A circus at its finest.
Overall, the speech was commendable. Everything about the attempt on his life and Corey Comperatore Is reasonable IMO. Even though I disagree politically with the comments about the Democrats and the witch-hunts, they didn't detract from the overall message. I believe his tone and efforts to call for unification are respectable steps towards reducing the violent rhetoric.
The rest of the speech was normal things someone campaigning for president would say.
The rest of the speech was normal things someone campaigning for president would say.
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Very impressive credentials, he also checked a box on a form. You know how difficult that is.
Very impressive progressive credentials that I overlooked: at the age of 17, he donated $15 to the Democratic ActBlue action committee.He later registered to vote as a Republican, as did his sister. If the slogan on his T-shirt meant anything, it was that he was a gun-fetishist. It isn't possible to conclude anything for certain about his motives, but it is absurd to think that he was some kind of progressive or leftist, most of whom oppose unrestricted gun ownership and legal ownership of assault weapons.
Not all leftists or progressives are insane with regards to firearms. Some even own and practice with firearms. Some even respect the 2nd Amendment. Saying "he liked guns" simply means he didn't hate and fear guns the way some radical idiots on the left do.
Jason, pay attention. Thomas Crooks' dad was a registered Libertarian and had legally purchased the gun that his son used. IOW, if you are looking to brand this as an act inspired by political ideology, this one came from your clubhouse. The shooter was wearing a T-shirt with the logo from a radical pro-gun YouTube site, not a Che Guevara T-shirt.
So his dad bought the firearm. Did his dad say "go out and shoot that person" when he did so? Did his dad pull the trigger?
No, his registered Libertarian dad just raised him and bought the weapon used in the shooting.
As further details have emerged, it appears that his dad bought the gun for himself.
You're looking at checking a box on a form.
You think everyone who isn't terrified of guns is a pro-gun extremist. Wow. Impressive. He wasn't a hoplophobe, that makes him right wing.
Did you know men who are afraid of firearms are at a higher risk of contracting cervical cancer?
Oh, and we now know about a Hispanic classmate who was a Trump supporter, and Crooks though this classmate was wrong for going against his race.
And now for some
OPINION PIECES
that allegedly prove you factually correct.Impressive opinions there.
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I don’t disagree that Teagan had good intentions. But I do mark the efforts to undermine public education to Reagan’s reign. As for him ‘declining’ to run a third term, the 22nd Amendment forbids such. Reagan was also showing signs of dementia by his second term, confusing his movie roles with actual events he participated in and once, famously opining that trees cause pollution.
Nixon was corrupt and racist but he had the decency to resign when his illegal actions were exposed.
Blah. Nixon didn't resign out of decency. He stepped down so someone else could take his place and issue a presidential pardon. The pardon was highly controversial, and Ford had absolutely nothing to gain from it, aside from potentially leveraging Nixon's knowledge and securing Nixon's support in the future. What Nixon gained from the pardon was the sweet benefit of avoiding jail time.
Ninja Edit: It seems highly implausible that Nixon's resignation and subsequent pardon weren't premeditated. Facing imminent federal charges, it's reasonable to assume he would have reached out to a homie and say'd "Aye mang, wanna be president?".
Ninja Edit: It seems highly implausible that Nixon's resignation and subsequent pardon weren't premeditated. Facing imminent federal charges, it's reasonable to assume he would have reached out to a homie and say'd "Aye mang, wanna be president?".
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I think you are missing Elixir's point. If you have cancer that has metastasized throughout your body, it's likely going to be incurable. But that one tumor, although it's symptom of a wider cancer diagnosis, is blocking your airway and will kill you very shortly. If removed, the wider problem still exists, but now you have more time to deal with the cancer and/or deal with your affairs.
We don't have time to deal with our affairs in the US. There's no time to fix all the things that need to be done to fix our democracy, but if we remove this one immediate threat, we have a chance of dealing with the rest.
If we can't remove this one tumor, like, now, it won't matter what else needs to be done because it will be too late.
That's one of about five hundred "plans" that could have stopped the, uh, event.Unsecured rooftop with a straight view to the stage.
But that assumes that someone in the Trump camp wanted to stop the "event". Which I increasingly doubt.
Right now I think the probability is that the Crooks kid didn't miss.
I'll just say that I believe this was not planned and leave it at that. I'm not interested in going over the details because it's apparent that doing so won't change anything, but I wanted to make my position clear.
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I’ll just say that I don’t have any idea whether it was planned or who could have planned it, and don’t expect any clarity to emerge, at least during my lifetime.
But I know it stinks to high heaven.
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Reagan was the governor of California for 8 years, but declined to run in 1974 for a third term as governor of California, which he likely would've won.
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Depends on how the tumor is removed.
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Ah. Got it.
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Operations are risky. The total societal lobotomy procedure recommended by Trump to preserve the tumor (himself) will almost certainly be fatal to American Democracy. Removing the Trump tumor might cause unstoppable bleeding, or stoppable bleeding or no significant bleeding. I think the VAST majority of Americans would be happy to get rid of the fucker, even the ones who have voted for him. He is just too tiring.
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If it was staged, that would make perfect sense.
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I agree that it is extremely suspicious that the alleged bullet wound occurred. Also, that a man who people who knew him say was a very poor shooter could do such a precise hit.
Another thing that is suspicious is that the wound should have been examined by a police authorized doctor at a hospital, photos taken, and a forensic specialist also look at the wound. But there has been no medical details released, and this procedurally required visit to a hospital didn't happen. Also, Trump immediately claimed it was a bullet wound, and it was impossible for him to know this.
In addition, if a genuine bullet wound Trump would have been screaming at the time, and complaining constantly since then.