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Good Bye, Tucker. And don't let the door hit you in the ass.

 
 
 
ideologyhunter said:
Tucker may actually believe the right wing nutterbutter nonsense he traffics in, but I have doubts. He's simply too literate and knows how to use the language. His father was director of Voice of America and president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Tucker got a degree in history from Trinity College (Connecticut.) Now, it's very believable that he's right of center, but to me, it's unlikely that he believes the drivel he pushed to become a Fox star. I think he made the cynical calculation that there was a fortune to be made catering to the lunacy, stupidity, and racial paranoia of the Moscow Marjorie voter. And he was correct. I love it that his private emails reveal that he sees Trump as I do. You're so right, Tuck. Trump is 'a demonic force, a destroyer', and 'there really isn't an upside' to the wretch. I, too, 'hate him passionately.' The difference is, I didn't have to subsequently make loud, slurpy kisses on Trump's rear end. Tucker's developed a taste for that.
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Which is why, IMHO, Mr. Carlson is truly a terrible venal person - peddling lies to make a better vicious lies.
 
McTurtle really laid into him today! Said that Tucker was the main force behind the Repub base turning on Ukraine and siding with Putie. He also said that 'our presidential nominee' wouldn't clearly support Ukraine, which caused months and months of no support. Quite a statement from the old guy.
 
Shadowy Man said:
Apparently he also said to Rogan that nobody knows where the technology for nuclear weapons came from.
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Lots of people are apparently incapable of telling the difference between "I don't know" and "nobody knows".

It's an occupational hazard amongst know-nothing blowhards who genuinely beleive thrmselves to be both intelligent and well informed, but are in fact neither.

The thinking is that as I don't know, and I am really really smart, obviously nobody knows.

Unfortunately, in order to grasp why this logic fails, one would need to be fairly smart; And they aren't.
 
bilby said:
Shadowy Man said:
Apparently he also said to Rogan that nobody knows where the technology for nuclear weapons came from.
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Lots of people are apparently incapable of telling the difference between "I don't know" and "nobody knows".

It's an occupational hazard amongst know-nothing blowhards who genuinely beleive thrmselves to be both intelligent and well informed, but are in fact neither.

The thinking is that as I don't know, and I am really really smart, obviously nobody knows.

Unfortunately, in order to grasp why this logic fails, one would need to be fairly smart; And they aren't.
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It could almost be imaginable had the biggest Oscar hit last year not been a movie explicitly explaining how the technology was developed.
 
Didn't Columbus discover nuclear weapons n America? I thought that's how they got here. Something about a cave on Hispaniola. And then the Hurricanes and bad weather started. The natives were peacefully using the nukes to kill the tropical storms and Columbus fucked that all up.
 
ideologyhunter said:
Tucker may actually believe the right wing nutterbutter nonsense he traffics in, but I have doubts. He's simply too literate and knows how to use the language. His father was director of Voice of America and president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Tucker got a degree in history from Trinity College (Connecticut.) Now, it's very believable that he's right of center, but to me, it's unlikely that he believes the drivel he pushed to become a Fox star. I think he made the cynical calculation that there was a fortune to be made catering to the lunacy, stupidity, and racial paranoia of the Moscow Marjorie voter. And he was correct. I love it that his private emails reveal that he sees Trump as I do. You're so right, Tuck. Trump is 'a demonic force, a destroyer', and 'there really isn't an upside' to the wretch. I, too, 'hate him passionately.' The difference is, I didn't have to subsequently make loud, slurpy kisses on Trump's rear end. Tucker's developed a taste for that.
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Agreed. Malice, not stupidity.

Technology for nuclear weapons has no origin???? A pretty basic understanding of nuclear physics indicates the potential. Nuclear fission was understood at the time, including the fact that it was a very energetic reaction. The Manhattan project was about figuring out if there was a way to make it go fast enough to be useful as a weapon. It turned out to be a lot harder than anticipated but we figured it out.

And while the knowledge spread by espionage so there's no certainty that any other country actually developed it we have the Nth country project. Two newly-graduated engineers with no knowledge of nuclear stuff. Their job was to design a nuclear bomb--no access to classified data and it was purely design, nuclear materials were presumed. They directed a virtual laboratory--give the lab an experiment and get back the results. Typically, simulated by actual bomb engineers but occasionally actually tested because they weren't confident of answering it. IIRC 18 months to produce a plutonium design (they considered a uranium gun design and rejected it as too easy) that the actual guys said would work. That's clearly an independent invention of the bomb, although aided by the fact they had a general idea of what they were after. And note that that was back in the 60s, it would be a lot easier now.

It's basically the same situation we are at with fusion--there's no question about the reactions or their potential, but so far we aren't able to make it go fast enough in a controlled environment. (You can do nuclear fusion on the desktop--just too slowly to be a power generator. And the big laser systems most certainly can cause a fusion burn in their target--just not enough to even power the system.)
 
Great but they'll just replace him with some other shitty person.
 
GenesisNemesis said:
Great but they'll just replace him with some other shitty person.
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Already done. The guy who replaced Tucker got his current wife to start dating him by slashing the tyres of her car and then offering her a ride home. I say current wife because he was still married to his former wife at the time.

There literally is no bottom when it comes to Faux News.
 
Fuck me. I never knew who replaced Tucker or bothered to look up his background. The story of flattening the tires sounded too much so I looked it up. Then I saw the wedding photos to the new wife in Naples Florida with the Trumps and other reality TV garbage. Really is no bottom for the GOP.
 
Patooka said:
GenesisNemesis said:
Great but they'll just replace him with some other shitty person.
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Already done. The guy who replaced Tucker got his current wife to start dating him by slashing the tyres of her car and then offering her a ride home. I say current wife because he was still married to his former wife at the time.

There literally is no bottom when it comes to Faux News.
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That was effectively a line Colin Jost had at the Correspondence Dinner, noting that Murdoch was stepping down from Fox News... and he said "he didn't know there was a step down from Fox News":
 
He's also a bonafide ufologist nutter, but he knows UFOs didn't come from another planet, because that's crazy. UFOs are spiritual phenomenon that have always been here. Like in Ezekiel.

 
www.theguardian.com

Fox News employees expressed concerns network was intentionally aiding Trump, legal filings reveal

Survey responses cited in $2.7bn defamation lawsuit filed against Fox by voting technology company Smartmatic
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The comments come from an anonymous internal survey – the “Fox News 2020 Great Place to Work Trust Index Survey” – of 1,040 employees conducted between 24 August 2020 and 8 September 2020. Several employees expressed concerns that the network was intentionally aiding Donald Trump and the Republican party.

One anonymous employee said that Fox should “change the misogynist, racist, rightwing content”, adding: “Fox News is a propaganda machine for the Republican party NOT a news organization and should be acknowledged as such. It is embarrassing to tell people that I work here as even conservatives know [Fox News Channel] and [Fox Business Network] are biased information sources – not news.” While the employee called the work environment “great”, they said “the content is hateful and has made the world a more divided and angry place”.

“I sometimes go home fighting back tears,” an employee said. “This network made me question my morals. Have I sold my soul to the devil?”

An employee said the network should “get out of Trump’s pocket” and realize that its most prominent hosts – including Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity – “are a total embarrassment, peddling BS and conspiracy theories”. “Many days I feel like I am part of the problem and FNC is contributing to hatred in this country,” the person said.

“This company aligns itself with the current administration and has lost its integrity,” an employee said. “I wish there was purpose for what we do other than pushing the brand, ideology and political will of [the president],” another comment read.

Many of the comments dealt specifically with the network’s conservative opinion hosts, rather than its news division. “I wish that management would crack down on conspiracy theories and hateful rhetoric spewed by such hosts,” an employee said. “We need to stand up for our real journalists and have more focus on news gathering and reporting to change our credibility and the way we are perceived.”

An employee asked for “a commitment from opinion hosts/producers to only tell viewers the truth, and to bolster their arguments with hard, proven facts given in full context, rather than spin or reckless conjecture that causes harm to real people”.

Fox has said that the survey responses are irrelevant to Smartmatic’s case because they were made months prior to the network’s coverage of the 2020 presidential election, which was the basis of the lawsuit. “There is no connection between these comments and the states of mind of the individuals responsible for the at-issue statements,” the network said in response, referring to the on-air comments made by such hosts as Jeanine Pirro and Lou Dobbs. The organization that conducted the survey, Great Place to Work, ultimately certified Fox as one of the best places to work in 2020, with the vast majority of network employees endorsing it as an employer. It’s also not clear whether the quotes cited in the filing come from a wide swath of employees or from a few particular ones.
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Shadowy Man said:
The job market most be pretty bad if you stay in a job that results in you going home crying and questioning your own morals, thinking maybe you’ve sold your soul to the devil.
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It can be pretty difficult to leave a job that actually pays the bills, but nearly all such jobs have been co-opted by this regime in some way or another. Newscaster is just more obvious.
 
ZiprHead said:
www.theguardian.com

Fox News employees expressed concerns network was intentionally aiding Trump, legal filings reveal

Survey responses cited in $2.7bn defamation lawsuit filed against Fox by voting technology company Smartmatic
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
The comments come from an anonymous internal survey – the “Fox News 2020 Great Place to Work Trust Index Survey” – of 1,040 employees conducted between 24 August 2020 and 8 September 2020. Several employees expressed concerns that the network was intentionally aiding Donald Trump and the Republican party.

One anonymous employee said that Fox should “change the misogynist, racist, rightwing content”, adding: “Fox News is a propaganda machine for the Republican party NOT a news organization and should be acknowledged as such. It is embarrassing to tell people that I work here as even conservatives know [Fox News Channel] and [Fox Business Network] are biased information sources – not news.” While the employee called the work environment “great”, they said “the content is hateful and has made the world a more divided and angry place”.

“I sometimes go home fighting back tears,” an employee said. “This network made me question my morals. Have I sold my soul to the devil?”

An employee said the network should “get out of Trump’s pocket” and realize that its most prominent hosts – including Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity – “are a total embarrassment, peddling BS and conspiracy theories”. “Many days I feel like I am part of the problem and FNC is contributing to hatred in this country,” the person said.

“This company aligns itself with the current administration and has lost its integrity,” an employee said.
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How does one lose something they never had?
 
Shadowy Man said:
The job market most be pretty bad if you stay in a job that results in you going home crying and questioning your own morals, thinking maybe you’ve sold your soul to the devil.
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"Wage slave" is the generic term for the problem. They might be salaried, but still.
Tom
 
TomC said:
Shadowy Man said:
The job market most be pretty bad if you stay in a job that results in you going home crying and questioning your own morals, thinking maybe you’ve sold your soul to the devil.
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"Wage slave" is the generic term for the problem. They might be salaried, but still.
Tom
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Once they get hooked on meeting five figure monthly bills, the only apparent way out is to get more and more. So the carrot & stick dynamic takes over.
 
TomC said:
Shadowy Man said:
The job market most be pretty bad if you stay in a job that results in you going home crying and questioning your own morals, thinking maybe you’ve sold your soul to the devil.
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"Wage slave" is the generic term for the problem. They might be salaried, but still.
Tom
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I remember when my Dad told me when I was young, "Son, salary is when they fucking start owning you".
 
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