2020 Election Results

[Gun Nut]

Republican officials playing make believe as official electors.

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Nuh uh! I am an Elector tooooooooo! Dear leader said so! Let all 100 of us in... we all call ourselves Electors and demand it!

That said... I am a Senator because I said so and I demand my vote on the floor!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Republican officials playing make believe as official electors.

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Nuh uh! I am an Elector tooooooooo! Dear leader said so! Let all 100 of us in... we all call ourselves Electors and demand it!

That said... I am a Senator because I said so and I demand my vote on the floor!

But but... The Constitution Says...

 

[lpetrich]

McConnell warns GOP off Electoral College brawl in Congress

Fending off a messy fight that could damage Republicans ahead of Georgia Senate runoffs, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell warned fellow GOP senators not to join President Donald Trump’s extended assault on the Electoral College results.

In public remarks and private warnings on Tuesday, McConnell worked to push ahead to the Biden era and unite a fractured Republican Party ahead of the runoff elections that will determine Senate control.

He first praised Trump's "endless" accomplishments. Then he warned fellow Republican Senators against disputing the EC count.

Republicans worry that a prolonged fight over the electoral ballots could aggravate GOP divisions and hurt turnout in the Jan. 5 runoff election in Georgia, where two incumbent Republican senators, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, face Democratic challengers Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in a state that flipped in November for Biden.

McConnell and his lieutenants, including Sens. John Thune of South Dakota and Roy Blunt of Missouri, warned the senators off any Electoral College challenge, according to one of the people familiar with Tuesday’s call. The GOP leaders further warned senators that forcing their colleagues into a vote on Electoral College challenges would prove difficult, especially for those facing their own reelections in 2022.

Loeffler declines to rule out formal protest of Biden's win - Sen. Kelly Loeffler

 

[ZiprHead]

BUSTED? Why the numbers behind Mitch McConnell's re-election don't add up

On a Thursday in August in Louisville, months before the 2020 election, a parade of cars filled with Kentucky Teamster representatives and labor groups, showed their fury at Mitch McConnell's constant blocking of critical COVID aid. They drove by McConnell's office raucously honking and bearing signs saying “Mitch better have my money."

In 2017, a Public Policy Polling Survey asked Kentuckians, “Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Mitch McConnell's job performance?" Only 18% approved. He clawed his rating back up to 39% on the eve of the election.

McConnell, leader of Senate Republicans, rarely holds town hall meetings with Kentucky voters—not since a heated exchange with an angry constituent went viral.

So, what exactly drove these angry Kentuckians to reelect Mitch McConnell with a 19-point advantage over opponent Amy McGrath—57.8% to 38.2%?

McConnell racked up huge vote leads in traditionally Democratic strongholds, including counties that he had never before carried.There were wide, unexplained discrepancies between the vote counts for presidential candidates and down-ballot candidates.Significant anomalies exist in the state's voter records. Forty percent of the state's counties carry more voters on their rolls than voting-age citizens.Kentucky and many other states using vote tabulation machines made by Election Systems & Software all reported down-ballot race results at significant odds with pre-election polls.

Then there is the question of why a county like Breathitt has more registered voters than it has people of voting age? 2019 population data shows that Breathitt County had 12,630 people with approximately 23% below the voting age of 18. This means approximately 9,700 people are of voting age, yet there are 11,497 registered voters. Having 100% of the voting-age population registered would be astounding enough, but Breathitt County appears to have almost 120% more registered voters than age-eligible citizens. And looking further, it appears this is not limited to Breathitt.

Is this crocodile tears or is there something to this?

 

[Angry Floof]

BUSTED? Why the numbers behind Mitch McConnell's re-election don't add up

Then there is the question of why a county like Breathitt has more registered voters than it has people of voting age? 2019 population data shows that Breathitt County had 12,630 people with approximately 23% below the voting age of 18. This means approximately 9,700 people are of voting age, yet there are 11,497 registered voters. Having 100% of the voting-age population registered would be astounding enough, but Breathitt County appears to have almost 120% more registered voters than age-eligible citizens. And looking further, it appears this is not limited to Breathitt.

Is this crocodile tears or is there something to this?

That's the thing about this current cult of GOP - they tend to tell you what crimes they commit in their accusations of others.

 

[Elixir]

BUSTED? Why the numbers behind Mitch McConnell's re-election don't add up

Then there is the question of why a county like Breathitt has more registered voters than it has people of voting age? 2019 population data shows that Breathitt County had 12,630 people with approximately 23% below the voting age of 18. This means approximately 9,700 people are of voting age, yet there are 11,497 registered voters. Having 100% of the voting-age population registered would be astounding enough, but Breathitt County appears to have almost 120% more registered voters than age-eligible citizens. And looking further, it appears this is not limited to Breathitt.

Is this crocodile tears or is there something to this?

That's the thing about this current cult of GOP - they tend to tell you what crimes they commit in their accusations of others.

It's the DJT Model for Crime Family Operations

 

[Angry Floof]

That's the thing about this current cult of GOP - they tend to tell you what crimes they commit in their accusations of others.

It's the DJT Model for Crime Family Operations

It really is.

 

[Shadowy Man]

That’s why they think Biden cheated. Because they know that they themselves cheated but still lost the Presidency.

 

[blastula]

BUSTED? Why the numbers behind Mitch McConnell's re-election don't add up

Then there is the question of why a county like Breathitt has more registered voters than it has people of voting age? 2019 population data shows that Breathitt County had 12,630 people with approximately 23% below the voting age of 18. This means approximately 9,700 people are of voting age, yet there are 11,497 registered voters. Having 100% of the voting-age population registered would be astounding enough, but Breathitt County appears to have almost 120% more registered voters than age-eligible citizens. And looking further, it appears this is not limited to Breathitt.

Is this crocodile tears or is there something to this?

It's fake news.

 

[Angry Floof]

That’s why they think Biden cheated. Because they know that they themselves cheated but still lost the Presidency.

Yep, it's why "Biden cheated" and "the First Lady is horrid" and "Dems are pedos and racists."

 

[Shadowy Man]

That’s why they think Biden cheated. Because they know that they themselves cheated but still lost the Presidency.

Yep, it's why "Biden cheated" and "the First Lady is horrid" and "Dems are pedos and racists."

“No puppet. You’re the puppet.”

 

[lpetrich]

Vote-counting fraud. Seems like some Republicans are projecting when they get worked up about alleged Democratic voter fraud.

I think that exit polls would be a valuable check. Has anyone done those?

I decided to compare Mitch McConnell's margins to Republican Presidential candidates.

• 2020 MMC: R 57.8%, D 38.2%, L 4.0%
• 2020 Pres: R 62.09% D 36.15% L 1.23% G 0.03% O 0.50%
• 2016 Pres: R 62.52% D 32.68% L 2.79% G 0.72% O 1.18%
• 2014 MMC: R 56.2% D 40.7% L 3.1%
• 2012 Pres: R 60.49% D 37.80% L 0.95% G 0.35% O 0.40%
• 2008 MMC: R 53% D 47%
• 2008 Pres: R 57.40% D 41.17% I(RN): 0.84% L 0.33% C 0.26% G 0% O 0.1%
• 2004 Pres: R 59.55% D 39.69% I(RN): 0.49% L 0.15% C 0.12% G 0% O 0%
• 2002 MMC: R 64.7% D 35.3%
• 2000 Pres: R 56.60% D 41.37% G 1.50% RF(PB) 0.27% L 0.19% C 0.06% NL 0.10% O 0.01%
• 1996 Pres: R 44.88% D 45.84% RF(RP) 8.67% G 0.05% L 0.29% O 0.27%
• 1996 MMC: R 55.5% D 42.8% L 0.7% O 1.0%
• 1992 Pres: R 41.34% D 44.55% I(RP) 13.66% L 0.30% O 0.14%
• 1990 MMC: R 52.2% D 47.8%
• 1988 Pres: R 55.52% D 43.88% L 0.16% NA(LF) 0.09%
• 1984 Pres: R 60.04% D 39.37%
• 1984 MMC: R 49.9% D 49.5% O 0.6%

In summary, MMC gets a bit smaller fraction of the overall vote than the most recent Republican candidates, something that held true this year also.

QAnon Supporters Vow to Leave GOP After Mitch McConnell Accepts Election Result

Followers of the radical movement who believe President Donald Trump is waging a secret war against satanic pedophiles, as well as pushing baseless claims that election was rigged, were dismayed at the Senate Majority Leader and accusing him of being a traitor.

Others said they will now leave the GOP or even form a new political party all together.

I can't help but enjoy their misery.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Vote-counting fraud. Seems like some Republicans are projecting when they get worked up about alleged Democratic voter fraud.

I think that exit polls would be a valuable check. Has anyone done those?

I decided to compare Mitch McConnell's margins to Republican Presidential candidates.

• 2020 MMC: R 57.8%, D 38.2%, L 4.0%
• 2020 Pres: R 62.09% D 36.15% L 1.23% G 0.03% O 0.50%
• 2016 Pres: R 62.52% D 32.68% L 2.79% G 0.72% O 1.18%
• 2014 MMC: R 56.2% D 40.7% L 3.1%
• 2012 Pres: R 60.49% D 37.80% L 0.95% G 0.35% O 0.40%
• 2008 MMC: R 53% D 47%
• 2008 Pres: R 57.40% D 41.17% I(RN): 0.84% L 0.33% C 0.26% G 0% O 0.1%
• 2004 Pres: R 59.55% D 39.69% I(RN): 0.49% L 0.15% C 0.12% G 0% O 0%
• 2002 MMC: R 64.7% D 35.3%
• 2000 Pres: R 56.60% D 41.37% G 1.50% RF(PB) 0.27% L 0.19% C 0.06% NL 0.10% O 0.01%
• 1996 Pres: R 44.88% D 45.84% RF(RP) 8.67% G 0.05% L 0.29% O 0.27%
• 1996 MMC: R 55.5% D 42.8% L 0.7% O 1.0%
• 1992 Pres: R 41.34% D 44.55% I(RP) 13.66% L 0.30% O 0.14%
• 1990 MMC: R 52.2% D 47.8%
• 1988 Pres: R 55.52% D 43.88% L 0.16% NA(LF) 0.09%
• 1984 Pres: R 60.04% D 39.37%
• 1984 MMC: R 49.9% D 49.5% O 0.6%

In summary, MMC gets a bit smaller fraction of the overall vote than the most recent Republican candidates, something that held true this year also.

QAnon Supporters Vow to Leave GOP After Mitch McConnell Accepts Election Result

Followers of the radical movement who believe President Donald Trump is waging a secret war against satanic pedophiles, as well as pushing baseless claims that election was rigged, were dismayed at the Senate Majority Leader and accusing him of being a traitor.

Others said they will now leave the GOP or even form a new political party all together.

I can't help but enjoy their misery.

To see the GOP splinter is a cream-dream come true. And it doesn't have to be major, just enough mental indigents to swing things to the dems.

 

[lpetrich]

Trump wants Supreme Court to overturn Pennsylvania election results - POLITICO - "The president and his legal team have repeatedly tried to change the outcome in Pa."

Again???

What a sore loser.

The petition seeks to reverse a trio of Pennsylvania Supreme Court cases having to do with mail-in ballots and asks the court to reject voters’ will and allow the Pennsylvania General Assembly to pick its own slate of electors.

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He is asking the court to move swiftly so it can rule before Congress meets on Jan. 6 to tally the vote of the Electoral College, which decisively confirmed Biden’s win with 306 electoral votes to Trump’s 232. But the justices are not scheduled to meet again, even privately, until Jan 8, two days after Congress counts votes.

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Trump’s campaign and his allies have now filed roughly 50 lawsuits alleging widespread voting fraud. Almost all have been dismissed or dropped because there is no evidence to support their allegations.

Trump has lost before judges of both political parties, including some he appointed. And some of his strongest rebukes have come from conservative Republicans. The Supreme Court has also refused to take up two cases — decisions that Trump has scorned.

Republicans desperate to avoid floor fight over Electoral College vote | TheHill

National Republicans are desperate to avoid a floor fight in Congress over the certification of the Electoral College vote next month, believing it would be horrible politics to continue waging what most recognize to be a hopeless battle to overturn the outcome of the election.

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President Trump is waging a pressure campaign to get senators to revolt. Incoming Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), who will be sworn in Jan. 3, has said he’ll join the floor fight and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who has said he believes the election was “stolen” from Trump, is always a wild card.

The Electoral College said to Trump "You're Fired", and he still hasn't given up.

 

[Politesse]

National Republicans are desperate to avoid a floor fight in Congress over the certification of the Electoral College vote next month, believing it would be horrible politics to continue waging what most recognize to be a hopeless battle to overturn the outcome of the election.

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President Trump is waging a pressure campaign to get senators to revolt. Incoming Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), who will be sworn in Jan. 3, has said he’ll join the floor fight and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who has said he believes the election was “stolen” from Trump, is always a wild card.

He's the figurehead they chose. May God have no mercy on their souls.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This isn't quite "again". This is Trump straight up, not Trump jumping alongside Texas' lawsuit. But...

- Forget standing (of which Trump would have), this doesn't rise to the category of the right legal venue. He can't just run to SCOTUS. Texas tried, but along a different line of argument. W's two SCOTUS cases were appeals of specific cases in Florida. He just didn't run straight to SCOTUS and say "stop the recount!" (goodness knows, they would have if they could).
- Trump Admin wants SCOTUS to provide a permission slip for State Legislature to ignore state law
- There is already a slate of electors based on a certified election result... so SCOTUS would wonder why they are being asked to intervene at all. Effectively this is a child trying to ask the other parent for permission when the first parent already said no. (What the PA courts say? Um, they told us to fuck off your honors.)

Ultimately, the first issue is likely the death nail in the latest lawsuit for the Trump Campaign to lose. And lose might not even be the right word. This thing might not even get considered by the nine justices as to whether to take it up! More like a self-imposed forfeit.

 

[lpetrich]

This issue has gotten onto debunking site Snopes:
Was Biden's 2020 Election Win the 'Lie of the Year'?

President Trump is not taking his defeat very well:
The Trump White House has entered its final stage: complete meltdown | Donald Trump | The Guardian

Some White House advisers fear Trump's final days - CNNPolitics

 

[lpetrich]

House conservatives strategize with Trump and Pence in push to challenge Biden's win - CNNPolitics

Alabama GOP Rep. Mo Brooks and fellow House conservatives met privately on Monday with President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence as the lawmakers prepared to mount a long-shot bid in January to overturn the Electoral College results that made Joe Biden the official winner of the election.

The discussion focused on Trump's baseless claims and conspiracies that the election was stolen from him, participants said, and lawmakers emerged confident that there were would be a contingent of House and Senate Republicans who would join the effort and prompt a marathon debate on the floor on January 6 that would spill into January 7.

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The effort is doomed to fail but would create a spectacle that Senate GOP leaders want to avoid. And if a House member and a senator object to six states' results, it would lead to at least 12 hours of debate, in addition to the time for casting votes on each of the motions, potentially prolonging the fight until the next day.

The White House meeting, Brooks said, was to discuss "how bad the voter fraud and election theft" was in November, even though such claims have been rejected by election officials and courts across the country.

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While the House conservatives have virtually no chance at succeeding, it would put many Republicans in an awkward spot. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and his top lieutenants have urged senators not to join House conservatives because they would then be forced to cast a vote that would make them choose between Trump and the will of the voters.

But several senators have not ruled out joining the effort, including Sens. Josh Hawley of Missouri and Rand Paul of Kentucky. And Trump has heaped praise on Alabama's incoming senator, Tommy Tuberville, for signaling he'd object to the results.

Desperation. They seem like a bunch of latter-day Confederates.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

House conservatives strategize with Trump and Pence in push to challenge Biden's win - CNNPolitics

Alabama GOP Rep. Mo Brooks and fellow House conservatives met privately on Monday with President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence as the lawmakers prepared to mount a long-shot bid in January to overturn the Electoral College results that made Joe Biden the official winner of the election.

The discussion focused on Trump's baseless claims and conspiracies that the election was stolen from him, participants said, and lawmakers emerged confident that there were would be a contingent of House and Senate Republicans who would join the effort and prompt a marathon debate on the floor on January 6 that would spill into January 7.

...
The effort is doomed to fail but would create a spectacle that Senate GOP leaders want to avoid. And if a House member and a senator object to six states' results, it would lead to at least 12 hours of debate, in addition to the time for casting votes on each of the motions, potentially prolonging the fight until the next day.

The White House meeting, Brooks said, was to discuss "how bad the voter fraud and election theft" was in November, even though such claims have been rejected by election officials and courts across the country.

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While the House conservatives have virtually no chance at succeeding, it would put many Republicans in an awkward spot. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and his top lieutenants have urged senators not to join House conservatives because they would then be forced to cast a vote that would make them choose between Trump and the will of the voters.

But several senators have not ruled out joining the effort, including Sens. Josh Hawley of Missouri and Rand Paul of Kentucky. And Trump has heaped praise on Alabama's incoming senator, Tommy Tuberville, for signaling he'd object to the results.

Desperation. They seem like a bunch of latter-day Confederates.

That sounds almost saintly. Can we just refer to them as anti-democratic Trumptards?

 

[ZiprHead]

And the delusion continues.

Trump supporters organizing 'second inauguration' for him online Jan. 20