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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and unidisguised traitors to their nation.
What exactly brought about the change of attitude? How did so many people come to see Putin as an ally instead of an enemy and give two shits about a free country being destroyed? Is it neocon backlash? Was invading Iraq and Afghanistan what caused it? I think so.
 
Saying Assad is bad is the same as cheering for ISIS? How pathetic is your “logic”?
You are cheering for his removal by .... ISIS.
You are quite literally the only one bringing up ISIS.

Just you.
Maybe it's Monday, or maybe it's some other depressing thing, but for the first time ever I agree with Barbos on one thing.

The group taking over Syria is likely to instill a fundamental form of Islam. It'll be violent, oppressive, and the people will suffer the same or worse than they did under Assad.

Second verse, same as the first.
 
Saying Assad is bad is the same as cheering for ISIS? How pathetic is your “logic”?
You are cheering for his removal by .... ISIS.
You are quite literally the only one bringing up ISIS.

Just you.
Maybe it's Monday, or maybe it's some other depressing thing, but for the first time ever I agree with Barbos on one thing.

The group taking over Syria is likely to instill a fundamental form of Islam. It'll be violent, oppressive, and the people will suffer the same or worse than they did under Assad.

Second verse, same as the first.
Oh well. They are jubilant today.
Guess they deserve a day off from the misery, every thirty years or so.
At least it means Pootey is saddled with a rude house guest for a while. 🫤
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and unidisguised traitors to their nation.
What exactly brought about the change of attitude? How did so many people come to see Putin as an ally instead of an enemy and give two shits about a free country being destroyed? Is it neocon backlash? Was invading Iraq and Afghanistan what caused it? I think so.
Hmm. Interesting question, but American conservatives/Trumpites are the first to want to turn every foreign nation into "black glass." They're the true "America! Fuck Yeah!" that Team America was making fun of.

U.S. citizens have been convinced by Russian mis/disinformation to the point they've begun to parrot Putin's policies. The GOP and Fox News picked up on that years ago and have been parroting the same damn things, which has turned former points of view upside down. There's also been a change in the idea that democracy is a good thing. They see Putin as a strong leader that takes care of business, and they want the same thing; simple solutions to complex problems. They see the same thing in Trump.
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and undisguised traitors to their nation.
Trump isn't endorsing the invasion. He is just say that Zelensky should put an end to the violence and make a deal with Russia... giving up a part of Ukraine in the process and get absolutely nothing back for it.
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and unidisguised traitors to their nation.
What exactly brought about the change of attitude? How did so many people come to see Putin as an ally instead of an enemy and give two shits about a free country being destroyed? Is it neocon backlash? Was invading Iraq and Afghanistan what caused it? I think so.
Hmm. Interesting question, but American conservatives/Trumpites are the first to want to turn every foreign nation into "black glass." They're the true "America! Fuck Yeah!" that Team America was making fun of.

U.S. citizens have been convinced by Russian mis/disinformation to the point they've begun to parrot Putin's policies. The GOP and Fox News picked up on that years ago and have been parroting the same damn things, which has turned former points of view upside down. There's also been a change in the idea that democracy is a good thing. They see Putin as a strong leader that takes care of business, and they want the same thing; simple solutions to complex problems. They see the same thing in Trump.
You're right that lots of ignorant citizens in the U.S. like to say "turn it to glass." Neocons are dismissive, paranoid, militaristic, simple-minded supremacists when you boil it all down to the dregs. Maybe I should add "selfish" to that description. I certainly wouldn't want them sitting on my jury. I suppose their love of Putin is no different than many Americans love of Hitler in the day combined with a healthy dose of cultural antisemitism. The Jew is now just the Liberal.
 
Saying Assad is bad is the same as cheering for ISIS? How pathetic is your “logic”?
You are cheering for his removal by .... ISIS.
You are quite literally the only one bringing up ISIS.

Just you.
Maybe it's Monday, or maybe it's some other depressing thing, but for the first time ever I agree with Barbos on one thing.

The group taking over Syria is likely to instill a fundamental form of Islam. It'll be violent, oppressive, and the people will suffer the same or worse than they did under Assad.

Second verse, same as the first.
Oh well. They are jubilant today.
Guess they deserve a day off from the misery, every thirty years or so.
At least it means Pootey is saddled with a rude house guest for a while. 🫤
Yeah, the Iranians were jubilant for a minute when they deposed the Shah, and then had a very, very, very rude awakening. The impression that I get (from what I've heard) is that the "rebels" aren't noble revolutionaries fighting for freedom and democracy. They just managed to overthrow a decrepit dictatorship that's only survived because of support from another decrepit dictatorship which has recently been exposed as a paper tiger.

The incoming American President is clearly unhappy that his buddy Vlad lost his bestie in the Middle East, and has pledged to sit on his tiny hands over Syria. Had the US election turned out differently, the incoming administration would try to leverage whatever influence we could muster to apply pressure to the incoming Syrian regime to be a bit more moderate that the outgoing one. They're jubilant now, but (I'm guessing) woefully unprepared to run - let alone rebuild - an entire country. Unfortunately, we're going to have an administration (regime?) here in the states that can't think beyond coming up with a slogan that fits on a hat or a bumper sticker.
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and undisguised traitors to their nation.
Trump isn't endorsing the invasion. He is just say that Zelensky should put an end to the violence and make a deal with Russia... giving up a part of Ukraine in the process and get absolutely nothing back for it.
If you don't levy a single criticism against an invading force, call the head of that force your long-time friend, and criticize their victims for not surrendering to them... well, it's painting a certain picture, and if you don't see that picture, I think I can assume at the very least that you are not Ukrainian. Or, really, European. He's sending a extremely clear message, uncomonly clear for a man who usually can't string a complete sentence together, about what the US response will be for the next four years. In Ukraine, and anywhere else Russia and China decide they can afford to invade.
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and unidisguised traitors to their nation.
What exactly brought about the change of attitude? How did so many people come to see Putin as an ally instead of an enemy and give two shits about a free country being destroyed? Is it neocon backlash? Was invading Iraq and Afghanistan what caused it? I think so.
Hmm. Interesting question, but American conservatives/Trumpites are the first to want to turn every foreign nation into "black glass." They're the true "America! Fuck Yeah!" that Team America was making fun of.

U.S. citizens have been convinced by Russian mis/disinformation to the point they've begun to parrot Putin's policies. The GOP and Fox News picked up on that years ago and have been parroting the same damn things, which has turned former points of view upside down. There's also been a change in the idea that democracy is a good thing. They see Putin as a strong leader that takes care of business, and they want the same thing; simple solutions to complex problems. They see the same thing in Trump.
Some Americans have been convinced…,

Trump has gained control over the GOP largely due to the money he is able to attract to the party. How much of that money has flowed through Russian oligarchy hands is open to debate but my guess is that other billionaires have seen just how malleable the convictions and ethics of Trump and as it turns out: the party itself.

Dylan was right: Money don’t talk, it swears.
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and undisguised traitors to their nation.
Trump isn't endorsing the invasion. He is just say that Zelensky should put an end to the violence and make a deal with Russia... giving up a part of Ukraine in the process and get absolutely nothing back for it.
If you don't levy a single criticism against an invading force, call the head of that force your long-time friend, and criticize their victims for not surrendering to them... well, it's painting a certain picture, and if you don't see that picture, I think I can assume at the very least that you are not Ukrainian. Or, really, European. He's sending an extremely clear message, uncomonly clear for a man who usually can't string a complete sentence together, about what the US response will be for the next four years. In Ukraine, and anywhere else Russia and China decide they can afford to invade.
Unfortunately, dead on accurate.
 
View attachment 48745

Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and undisguised traitors to their nation.
Trump isn't endorsing the invasion. He is just say that Zelensky should put an end to the violence and make a deal with Russia... giving up a part of Ukraine in the process and get absolutely nothing back for it.
If you don't levy a single criticism against an invading force, call the head of that force your long-time friend, and criticize their victims for not surrendering to them... well, it's painting a certain picture, and if you don't see that picture, I think I can assume at the very least that you are not Ukrainian. Or, really, European. He's sending an extremely clear message, uncomonly clear for a man who usually can't string a complete sentence together, about what the US response will be for the next four years. In Ukraine, and anywhere else Russia and China decide they can afford to invade.
Unfortunately, dead on accurate.
I'm uncertain how much is pointed towards the Chinese. The problem Putin will have with Ukraine is he ain't gonna get enough to justify the cost. And Russia will be very limited on expansion ideas. They can't move past Ukraine. So they would need to keep pushing until Ukraine runs out of bullets.

I can only imagine Putin nominating Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize, brokering the theft of Ukraine into Russia's possession.
 
View attachment 48745

Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and undisguised traitors to their nation.
Trump isn't endorsing the invasion. He is just say that Zelensky should put an end to the violence and make a deal with Russia... giving up a part of Ukraine in the process and get absolutely nothing back for it.
If you don't levy a single criticism against an invading force, call the head of that force your long-time friend, and criticize their victims for not surrendering to them... well, it's painting a certain picture, and if you don't see that picture, I think I can assume at the very least that you are not Ukrainian. Or, really, European. He's sending an extremely clear message, uncomonly clear for a man who usually can't string a complete sentence together, about what the US response will be for the next four years. In Ukraine, and anywhere else Russia and China decide they can afford to invade.
Unfortunately, dead on accurate.
I'm uncertain how much is pointed towards the Chinese. The problem Putin will have with Ukraine is he ain't gonna get enough to justify the cost. And Russia will be very limited on expansion ideas. They can't move past Ukraine. So they would need to keep pushing until Ukraine runs out of bullets.

I can only imagine Putin nominating Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize, brokering the theft of Ukraine into Russia's possession.
Toni is right. It's the money. Orange Dotard wants to expand his brand to any and all takers because it means more money.
 
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Thirty years ago, did you ever think you'd live to see the day an American president would endorse the Russian invasion of another country so unashamedly? Today's "Republicans" are cowards, and undisguised traitors to their nation.
Yeah. Holllllly shit. This is why Gerald Ford, near the end of his life, told a confidant that he would be drummed out of the GOP if he was starting out in politics (and he was referring to Gingrich's GOP.)
So, to take your figure of 30 years, if we plunk ourselves down in 1994, we have a GOP that made stern-faced condemnations of Bill Clinton for philandering and lying. Look at the party's figurehead & rock star today. He owes, what, $83 million to a woman he was convicted of assaulting, and he wanted an alleged statutory rapist to be his AG. The family values party is mesmerized by a guy accused by 20+ women of harrassment or sexual assault. He's said shit and motherfucker on stage. His lying on matters petty and substantial is a mental reflex. The party that spent decades hammering the Left for being soft on communism has a leader who called Putin's attack on Ukraine "genius". He's adapted Lenin's phrase 'enemy of the people' as his own. The party of fiscal responsibility that has always accused Dems of wasteful spending has a Pres who in his first term added, I believe, 6.7 trillion to the national debt. And now we have to endure 4 additional years of this unbearable man and his morally bankrupt party. This country has lost its way.
 
For years Abu Muhammad al-Jolani (Ahmed al-Sharaa) and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham have been trying to clean up its act or so it would appear. They are still considered a terrorist group by the US and Jolani has a $10M bounty on his head. If his deeds follow his words, that bounty and terrorist designation may be rescinded. He has ditched the turban and long beard and has given interviews to western media. He claims to be pragmatic and desires for all Syrians regardless of sect to live in peace. The group has some track record of building a functioning government beneficial to Syrians in Idlib.
If the group follows through on its word and builds a government acceptable to all Syrians, will this terrorist designation and bounty be dropped? My guess is even if Jolani follows through on his word, Trump will not rescind the designation and bounty. So then the alternative would be for the new Syrian government to allow Russia to continue to operate its bases in Syria. That would be very much like Trump. Benefit Putin by doing nothing at all.
I am watching to see if Trump will still be as friendly toward Putin as he has been in the past. Putin is looking like a loser these days so Trump may shift his position.

Meanwhile Israel creates a buffer zone for the Golan Heights on Syrian land and selectively bombs various sites around Syria. Betcha those are American bombs they're dropping. Not a good look at this stage of the game.
 
Al-Jolani entering Damascus. Ca 2024, colorized.
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Meanwhile Israel creates a buffer zone for the Golan Heights on Syrian land and selectively bombs various sites around Syria. Betcha those are American bombs they're dropping. Not a good look at this stage of the game.
Depending on what sites are bombed, why not? And Syria is still highly volatile - nothing wrong with a buffer zone.

This is a map I found here. As you can see, it's not like HTS managed to conquer all Syria - it's more that Syrian Arab Army (Assad's forces) melted away. So things might still get very chaotic. For example, what about the Kurds (in yellow)?
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I am a bit surprised Hezbollah did not try to intervene. Yes, they have been greatly weakened by their war with Israel, but HTS' lines must have been stretched thin with their rapid advance southward, and Lebanese border is right where they were advancing. No way did they have the manpower to secure their flanks and rear properly.
 
Does this mean all the Syrian refugees that were welcomed into Europe a few years ago have started packing their shit up ready to go home?
 
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