Biden Pardons Hunter

[GenesisNemesis]

The pardon may not mean much since Trump can just reverse it in his next term. Yeah Biden has "immunity" now but so does Trump, so all that's going to happen is the pardon is going to be overridden because Trump will have absolute power and no one gives a shit.

As long as the pardon is delivered to Hunter, it's a done deal.

1. Under the constitution and laws of the United States, a pardon must “be regarded as a deed, to the validity of which delivery is essential. A pardon differs in that respect from a commission.
2. Until a pardon is delivered, it may be revoked.

CONSTITUTIONAL LAW—POWER OF THE PRESIDENT—REVOCATION OF PARDON—DELIVERY

Since when does the Supreme Court care? This means jack shit now.

 

[Derec]

Hunter Biden was prosecuted for alleged crimes that millions of Americans engaged in without being charged.

[citation needed] that "millions of Americans" have committed crimes for which Hunter Biden was prosecuted.

It was a political witchhunt, not justice,

You mean like Alvin Bragg prosecuting Trump for 34 felonies when the underlying crime was an expired misdemeanor which consisted of misreporting a hush money payment? Especially given that Bragg is notorious for downgrading actual felonies such as armed robberies to misdemeanor petty thefts.
There were legitimate cases against Trump. All of them have been tainted by Alvin and his chipmunks at the Manhattan DA's office jumping the gun.

so rightfully President Biden has pardoned him.

Bullshit. It is obvious self-dealing.
Biden has the authority to pardon anybody for any reason, sure, but that does not mean it was a good idea. It makes him look Trumpesque.

 

[Shadowy Man]

About Jake Lang:

From This article : (emphasis mine)

Sullivan County native Jake Lang's trial on 13 counts was scheduled to begin in federal court in Washington, D.C. on Nov. 12, after having been postponed four times at his request since 2022. He was originally supposed to stand trial in January 2023 — almost 22 months ago — and has been jailed longer than any other Jan. 6 defendant with pending charges.

Three weeks before the trial was due to begin, Lang's lawyer asked Judge Carl Nichols to put it off again, for an unspecified period. He said in an Oct. 25 court filing that he and Lang needed more time to continue studying the "massive" evidence in the case — reams of video recordings of Trump supporters clashing with the outnumbered police officers who were guarding the Capitol.

The attorney, Steven Metcalf, offered two other reasons to postpone the case. He wanted a doctor to verify Lang's mental competence to stand trial, suggesting that Lang's mental state may be impaired by his being held in solitary confinement. And he said some supporting witnesses may be unable to travel to Washington to testify during the week of Thanksgiving, which falls on Nov. 28.

"We do not wish to unnecessarily extend out this trial date, but the circumstances here are unique and require a short period to afford a fair trial," Metcalf wrote. "Lang’s future and freedom hang in the balance, and thus should outweigh other prejudicial concerns."

Prosecutors opposed the request with a detailed response, recounting each of the delays Lang had already been granted and rebutting his claims that he has been denied access to trial evidence while in jail.

"It is time to try this case," concluded Karen Rochlin, the assistant U.S. attorney prosecuting the case.

So he is delaying his own case, the trial for which the attorney wants to start.

And another news source says he wants to delay yet again because he expects Trump
To pardon him.

Is this one of those examples??

By the way, this information took five seconds to find online.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Hunter Biden was prosecuted for alleged crimes that millions of Americans engaged in without being charged.

[citation needed] that "millions of Americans" have committed crimes for which Hunter Biden was prosecuted.

It was a political witchhunt, not justice,

You mean like Alvin Bragg prosecuting Trump for 34 felonies when the underlying crime was an expired misdemeanor which consisted of misreporting a hush money payment?

Misreporting? It was hiding payments. It was a crime. It was always a crime! Had he just paid her off with campaign money and reported it, it would have been perfectly legal. Instead, his lawyer mortgages his house to pay off a woman who had sex with him, and then paid him back through a shady third party scheme in smaller blocks of money to evade detection by banking regulators. That is mob territory.

Especially given that Bragg is notorious for downgrading actual felonies such as armed robberies to misdemeanor petty thefts.

FFS! EVERY FUCKING THREAD!

There were legitimate cases against Trump. All of them have been tainted by Alvin and his chipmunks at the Manhattan DA's office jumping the gun.

No, it didn't taint any other case.

so rightfully President Biden has pardoned him.

Bullshit. It is obvious self-dealing.

It is self-dealing, but it is also not entirely unreasonable, when excluding it protecting against an actual conviction.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Hunter Biden was prosecuted for alleged crimes that millions of Americans engaged in without being charged.

[citation needed] that "millions of Americans" have committed crimes for which Hunter Biden was prosecuted.

It was a political witchhunt, not justice,

You mean like Alvin Bragg prosecuting Trump for 34 felonies when the underlying crime was an expired misdemeanor which consisted of misreporting a hush money payment? Especially given that Bragg is notorious for downgrading actual felonies such as armed robberies to misdemeanor petty thefts.
There were legitimate cases against Trump. All of them have been tainted by Alvin and his chipmunks at the Manhattan DA's office jumping the gun.

so rightfully President Biden has pardoned him.

Bullshit. It is obvious self-dealing.
Biden has the authority to pardon anybody for any reason, sure, but that does not mean it was a good idea. It makes him look Trumpesque.

In 2017, 117,000 Americans committed the same dastardly crime that Hunter committed. The below reporter described the crime as "Lie and Try":

When gun buyers are caught in 'lie-and-try,' how many are prosecuted? 12

Background check liars are often so desperate to get a gun that they'll risk going to jail. Except almost no one puts them in jail: Our view

www.usatoday.com

So, Spacetime may have exaggerated a little. Lets just say that about 100,000 Americans on average commit this crime.

 

[Patooka]

I'm not saying there was not wrong doing. But the people charged with the wrong doing should get to go to trial just like we treat other criminals.

Well that's horseshit. You and you tribe don't think the Magna Carta applies to your orange dear leader. Please stop pretending otherwise, you're just embarrassing yourself.

 

[Patooka]

Personally I have mixed feeling over this.

Literally everyone is skeptical about that claim, Mr "I have no proof but to my dying days Mike Lindell was right that the 2020 election was stolen".

Sir.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The pardon may not mean much since Trump can just reverse it in his next term. Yeah Biden has "immunity" now but so does Trump, so all that's going to happen is the pardon is going to be overridden because Trump will have absolute power and no one gives a shit.

A pardon can be reversed? I did not know that. How does that work if Hunter's pardon is reversed by Trump? Does that mean Hunter is back into legal jeapordy again with his conviction?

Another question after reading this thread I am wondering about now. If a president pardons a family member for any and all crimes he could ever be charged with, what happens if Hunter goes out and kills someone? Can Hunter now break any and all laws and still stay out of prison?

Personally I have mixed feeling over this. For those of you who do feel it is proper to pardon Hunter you should be equally eager to see Trump giving out any pardons for the Jan 6 rioters. Because both are excellent examples of highly politically influenced prosecutions. One can not agree with one without being in favor of the other.

Why should the 1/6ers be pardoned?

Hunter Biden is the target of a witch hunt. The laptop data has clearly been altered, it's not proof of anything. Thus there is no case, the pardon simply puts an end to the witch hunt. Biden should also pardon all of those on The Felon's witch hunt list. What he's actually guilty of is an utterly stupid law that should not exist. I'd have no problem with Biden pardoning everyone in that position (not checking the drug use box on a firearms application, but without any crimes of violence.)

That's a very different thing than pardoning people who actually did something wrong.

 

[TomC]

That's a very different thing than pardoning people who actually did something wrong.

Not just "actually did something wrong".

The January 6 insurrection was an attack on our country! Trump supporters like to pretend that it's a crime like looting a pawn shop. It's not. It's a crime more like the Pearl Harbor attack, except that it was instigated by President Trump and committed by his American followers.
Tom

 

[Derec]

The January 6 insurrection was an attack on our country! Trump supporters like to pretend that it's a crime like looting a pawn shop. It's not. It's a crime more like the Pearl Harbor attack, except that it was instigated by President Trump and committed by his American followers.
Tom

Would you say that it is a crime like bombing the US Senate building?

In the 1980s, a Far-Left, Female-Led Domestic Terrorism Group Bombed the U.S. Capitol

Susan Rosenberg, left, was one of M19's most central members in its early years. Starting in high school, Rosenberg spent time with members of the Black Panthers and Young Lords, and her politics remained leftist through her brief time at Barnard. Linda Sue Evans, right, hailed from the Midwest. Both women's prison sentences were commuted by President Bill Clinton in 2001.

 

[TomC]

Would you say that it is a crime like bombing the US Senate building?

J6 was much worse.

Trump's Insurrection was an attack on our basic values and institutions. It was instigated and led by the President.
And his supporters in Congress and the Senate and the Supreme Court.
As well as Christians and other political extremists.

That's much worse than an attack on a structure by some weirdos.
Tom

 

[Patooka]

The January 6 insurrection was an attack on our country! Trump supporters like to pretend that it's a crime like looting a pawn shop. It's not. It's a crime more like the Pearl Harbor attack, except that it was instigated by President Trump and committed by his American followers.
Tom

Would you say that it is a crime like bombing the US Senate building?

In the 1980s, a Far-Left, Female-Led Domestic Terrorism Group Bombed the U.S. Capitol

Susan Rosenberg, left, was one of M19's most central members in its early years. Starting in high school, Rosenberg spent time with members of the Black Panthers and Young Lords, and her politics remained leftist through her brief time at Barnard. Linda Sue Evans, right, hailed from the Midwest. Both women's prison sentences were commuted by President Bill Clinton in 2001.

Thank you, Derec. I've had a rough week of surprises but at least you are always consistent.

 

[laughing dog]

The January 6 insurrection was an attack on our country! Trump supporters like to pretend that it's a crime like looting a pawn shop. It's not. It's a crime more like the Pearl Harbor attack, except that it was instigated by President Trump and committed by his American followers.
Tom

Would you say that it is a crime like bombing the US Senate building?

In the 1980s, a Far-Left, Female-Led Domestic Terrorism Group Bombed the U.S. Capitol

Susan Rosenberg, left, was one of M19's most central members in its early years. Starting in high school, Rosenberg spent time with members of the Black Panthers and Young Lords, and her politics remained leftist through her brief time at Barnard. Linda Sue Evans, right, hailed from the Midwest. Both women's prison sentences were commuted by President Bill Clinton in 2001.

The women were prosecuted and convicted, so the point of your “whataboutism “ is?

 

[laughing dog]

People who were not really doing anything but being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yeah, trespassing at the U.S. Capitol during an insurrection is definitely being in the wrong place at the wrong time. like slipping on a banana peel and sliding into a coup attempt.

I'm not saying there was not wrong doing. But the people charged with the wrong doing should get to go to trial just like we treat other criminals.

Do you know why they have not gone to trial yet?

I'm not surprised you would not know about this. If you google for it there will be absolutely no results nor will you find it on any of the propoganda outlets either.

I asked why they had gone to trial. Jacob Lang has not gone to trial because he has requested and received 4 postponements.

 

[Elixir]

Did Nixon pardon any of his cronies?
No.
Until Ford came along and pardoned Nixon I don’t know if Presidents pardoned people they knew. Most Presidents didn’t surround themselves with people who needed pardoning - Jeffrey Epstein excepted.
It certainly wasn’t common practice until all Trump’s best people got arrested. Now Trump wants to punish Joe for Beating him and letting the law go after all his criminal friends - and has threatened to jail him and Hunter.
But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?
Gimme a fucking break.

 

[Politesse]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Personally I have mixed feeling over this. For those of you who do feel it is just to pardon Hunter you should be equally happy about Trump giving out any pardons for the Jan 6 rioters. Both examples are politically influenced prosecutions to a high degree. You should not agree with one without being in favor of the other

Bullshit.
The January 6 insurrection was an attack on the whole USA. The prosecutions, which there were far too few of, was my country protecting itself from violent enemies.
Nothing like the Hunter Biden prosecutions.
Tom

But many who have been charged have been waiting in prison without going to trial. People who were not really doing anything but being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Wrong place is a place they perfectly well knew they weren't legally allowed to be. And are those "waiting in jail" ones that have been there all along, or recent arrests? (Every so often they find out the identity of someone they didn't have a name for the face.)

 

[Shadowy Man]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

 

[Politesse]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

 

[Toni]

The pardon may not mean much since Trump can just reverse it in his next term. Yeah Biden has "immunity" now but so does Trump, so all that's going to happen is the pardon is going to be overridden because Trump will have absolute power and no one gives a shit.

A pardon can be reversed? I did not know that. How does that work if Hunters pardon is reversed by Trump? Does that mean Hunter is back into legal jeapordy again with his conviction?

Another question after reading this thread I am wondering about now. If a president pardons a family member for any and all crimes he could ever be charged with, what happens if Hunter goes out and kills someone? Can Hunter now break any and all laws and still stay out of prison?

No. Want to ask an intelligent question next?

If you don't know the answer then you should just say so.

Oh, I think we ALL know the answer to the question: Do you want to ask an intelligent question next.

Also the answer to: Do you know how to read?

Your question was answered very succinctly. You seem to have missed that.