Biden Pardons Hunter

[Toni]

Biden sounds exactly like Trump.

Apparently the law does not sappy to all as Biden said of Trump and family.

When I said ijn the past Biden was as corrupt as any other politicians Biden suppresses shouted me down.

Hunter was clearly peddling political influence. As VP Biden called into a corporate meeting in Ukraine speakng to the people, Hunter being p[resent.

Hunter Biden's only qualification for his paid corporate position in Ukraine was being the son of Joe Biden.


Biden has opened the door wide for Trump to pardon anyone. He pardoned Hunter for any future uncharged crimes.

Fuck Biden, just another rich guy above the law. Despite his proclamations of rule of law he is as amoral as Trump.

Here is a link to the pardons issued by Donald Trump:

Pardons Granted by President Donald J. Trump (2017-2021)

www.justice.gov

They include pardons for a number of close associates, including his son in law’s father, recently named Ambassador to France.

 

[Ford]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

Well then grab onto something, because it's going to happen a lot more very soon. The incoming President has promised (not that he ever keeps promises) to pardon everyone convicted of their crimes on January 6th, has already put one convicted felon/family member in his administration, had previously nominated an accused sex trafficker as AG, and now has picked a man for FBI head who has all but come out and said he wants to destroy the nation's top law enforcement agency and/or weaponize it against anyone Trump doesn't like.

On top of that, the 50-some remaining felonies the President-elect was on trial for AND the 34 he was convicted of just went up in a puff of stacked Supreme Court smoke. There will be no punishment whatsoever for his crimes, no punishment for anyone in his incoming administration, and a good chance that a whole lot of people will be rounded up and put into prison camps for the "crime" of having brown skin or a Latino-sounding name.

Plus doctors who try to provide reproductive health to women, pharmacists who prescribe certain medications, journalists who criticize Trump, and a whole host of other people who displease the regime.

But keep holding that grudge against Hunter Biden if that makes you feel better.

 

[Politesse]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

Well then grab onto something, because it's going to happen a lot more very soon. The incoming President has promised (not that he ever keeps promises) to pardon everyone convicted of their crimes on January 6th, has already put one convicted felon/family member in his administration, had previously nominated an accused sex trafficker as AG, and now has picked a man for FBI head who has all but come out and said he wants to destroy the nation's top law enforcement agency and/or weaponize it against anyone Trump doesn't like.

On top of that, the 50-some remaining felonies the President-elect was on trial for AND the 34 he was convicted of just went up in a puff of stacked Supreme Court smoke. There will be no punishment whatsoever for his crimes, no punishment for anyone in his incoming administration, and a good chance that a whole lot of people will be rounded up and put into prison camps for the "crime" of having brown skin or a Latino-sounding name.

Plus doctors who try to provide reproductive health to women, pharmacists who prescribe certain medications, journalists who criticize Trump, and a whole host of other people who displease the regime.

But keep holding that grudge against Hunter Biden if that makes you feel better.

I'm aware. Do you think pointing out that "the other guy does it too, and we're mad when he does it" is some sort of rebuttal of the charge of hypocrisy? As opposed to, as would be more accurate, the very definition of hypocrisy?

 

[Ford]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

Well then grab onto something, because it's going to happen a lot more very soon. The incoming President has promised (not that he ever keeps promises) to pardon everyone convicted of their crimes on January 6th, has already put one convicted felon/family member in his administration, had previously nominated an accused sex trafficker as AG, and now has picked a man for FBI head who has all but come out and said he wants to destroy the nation's top law enforcement agency and/or weaponize it against anyone Trump doesn't like.

On top of that, the 50-some remaining felonies the President-elect was on trial for AND the 34 he was convicted of just went up in a puff of stacked Supreme Court smoke. There will be no punishment whatsoever for his crimes, no punishment for anyone in his incoming administration, and a good chance that a whole lot of people will be rounded up and put into prison camps for the "crime" of having brown skin or a Latino-sounding name.

Plus doctors who try to provide reproductive health to women, pharmacists who prescribe certain medications, journalists who criticize Trump, and a whole host of other people who displease the regime.

But keep holding that grudge against Hunter Biden if that makes you feel better.

I'm aware. Do you think pointing out that "the other guy does it too, and we're mad when he does it" is some sort of rebuttal of the charge of hypocrisy? As opposed to, as would be more accurate, the very definition of hypocrisy?

Ah...whataboutism.

Sorry, but these two things are not the same. Yes, Biden promised he wouldn't pardon his son, and yes, he broke that promise. On his way out of the White House, he granted clemency to his son over some pretty minor charges that arose from a relentless prosecutorial campaign that began during the previous Trump administration. Unable to pin some nefarious crimes on Joe, the entire right wing of the country brought every weapon in their arsenal against the President's son. You could be forgiven for thinking that Hunter was some criminal mastermind, rather than a fucked up guy who got by on his last name. According to some Republicans in Congress, the entire country would have collapsed in on itself had Hunter not been prosecuted for fudging a gun permit application and cheating on his taxes.

Had his dad not stepped in, the owner of the dick that Marjorie Trailer Queen obsessed over would have at worst spent a few months in Club Fed and released for "good behavior." Honestly, there's so much pearl-clutching going on over this that it might actually bring pearls back as a right wing fashion accessory. I mean, who even wears pearls anymore?

 

[Politesse]

Whataboutism? Talking about the subject of the thread is whataboutism?

Not trying to deflect fair criticism of Biden's faithlessness and lawlessness by saying, "well whatabout what Trump plans to do? WHATABOUT THAT!?" That's not whataboutism, just staying on topic is?

If the Democrats weren't pulling shit like this, Trump wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

 

[bilby]

The Press is going about this like it was Ford's pardon of Nixon!

Hey, don't try to pin that on me. That happened when I was still in middle school.

Well, it was probably a good idea to repeal the right of middle school students to grant pardons. Your pardon of Nixon was likely just the catalyst for a long overdue change.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Whataboutism? Talking about the subject of the thread is whataboutism?

Not trying to deflect fair criticism of Biden's faithlessness and lawlessness by saying, "well whatabout what Trump plans to do? WHATABOUT THAT!?" That's not whataboutism, just staying on topic is?

If the Democrats weren't pulling shit like this, Trump wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

Wow, the Republicans throw shitloads of rocks, and when Biden throws a pebble, you say that the Democrats are pulling shit.
Trump is dangerous because the Democrats didn't pull enough shit.

 

[Torin]

To the Democrats' credit, Biden is getting some criticism for this from within his own party:

 

[Tigers!]

another rich guy above the law.

Biden’s net worth is estimated at $10m
Trump claims to be worth, not ten times or a hundred times, but A THOUSAND TIMES that much.
False equivalence, much?

To someone like me $10m is an awful lot of money. In fact Biden is very rich comared to me. Trump has more? So what? Both are still very rich compared to me so no false equivalence there.
All I see is rich men using the law to help themselves and their families.

 

[Politesse]

Whataboutism? Talking about the subject of the thread is whataboutism?

Not trying to deflect fair criticism of Biden's faithlessness and lawlessness by saying, "well whatabout what Trump plans to do? WHATABOUT THAT!?" That's not whataboutism, just staying on topic is?

If the Democrats weren't pulling shit like this, Trump wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

Wow, the Republicans throw shitloads of rocks, and when Biden throws a pebble, you say that the Democrats are pulling shit.
Trump is dangerous because the Democrats didn't pull enough shit.

Didn't pull enough shit? What are you talking about? How is elite family croneyism a tool that could have helped the Democrats in any way? Are you saying Hunter should have been pardoned months ago, and appointed as ambassador to Ukraine, as Trump would have done if it were his kid? Would that have helped the electoral cause? Spell it out for me, here, because that makes no fucking sense to me.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Whataboutism? Talking about the subject of the thread is whataboutism?

Not trying to deflect fair criticism of Biden's faithlessness and lawlessness by saying, "well whatabout what Trump plans to do? WHATABOUT THAT!?" That's not whataboutism, just staying on topic is?

The one issue I see is that Biden's sentencing probably wouldn't have occurred until Trump took office (making one think the courts are too bloody busy).

Something that is being overlooked a bit is that with this pardon, Biden can't plead the fifth if the GOP decides to go all Benghazi on the Bidens.

If the Democrats weren't pulling shit like this, Trump wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

Well, Biden wouldn't have done this if Trump didn't pardon his son-in-law's father.

I can't believe people are actually making the argument that Trump is using precedence to justify his actions, when he has yet to do that to justify any of his actions.

 

[ZiprHead]

Biden has opened the door wide for Trump to pardon anyone.

Are you kidding??? Trump has pardoned his fellow felons. He pardoned a murdering war criminal who took a selfie with the kid he murdered. He says he will pardon the J6 felons who attacked police officers.

Your statement is a false moral equivalency.

 

[ZiprHead]

People who were not really doing anything but being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yeah, trespassing at the U.S. Capitol during an insurrection is definitely being in the wrong place at the wrong time. like slipping on a banana peel and sliding into a coup attempt.

I'm not saying there was not wrong doing. But the people charged with the wrong doing should get to go to trial just like we treat other criminals.

They weren't??? That would be huge news if it is true. Do tell...

 

[Elixir]

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle

If your son was being unfairly persecuted for filling out a form wrong, by a 34x convicted felon (who just made 90- something felonies
"go away" BECAUSE HIS DADDY WAS RICH) and you had no inclination to protect him despite having the power to do so ... I don't know what could ever get you back to the land of reason. But you're not a traditional "family man", I'm guessing, so maybe there's negligible difference between lying on a form vs living a life of criminal fraud, violence and deceit.

You have the sense of proportion of @Tigers! who fails to grasp the difference between millions and billions, and claims to be so poor that millions vs billions, is a minor distinction since both are beyond his immediate reach.
I don't believe @Tigers is poor; I've been poor, and having access to the internet and time to post on a backwater forum is NOT IT.

I'm fucking rich in my own opinion. Biden is multiple times richer, but that had nothing to do with why he was able to pardon his son (after allowing him to be dragged through the mud and tossed about as Trump's political football for fucking YEARS).

Trump isn't just richer than Biden, or just multiple times richer than Biden - he's A THOUSAND TIMES richer than Biden.
The kind of rich that lets him spend multiples of Biden's total net worth, just on a whim to make Joe's life miserable by persecuting his son.
Biden was "rich enough" to make those charges go away 100% and let Hunter avoid suffering at all, in January of 2021. But Joe let his son suffer for those years, ostensibly to teach him a needed lesson.
Did you forget that, Poli?
Think the punishment didn't fit the crime?
Damn, I hope you never get caught jaywalking!
Sheesh.

 

[Shadowy Man]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

And was Hunter’s legal outcome (prior to his pardon, of course) fitting his crime? Was it consistent with how others were punished for the same crime?

I don’t know but I have heard that virtually all others who did this crime would not have received the punishment he did. Would that have been fair?

 

[Elixir]

To someone like me $10m is an awful lot of money. In fact Biden is very rich comared to me. Trump has more? So what? Both are still very rich compared to me so no false equivalence there.

So what? So think about it!
What's your "total net worth" @Tigers? (no, I don't want to know, just want you to consider it)
If it's more than $10k, or the price of a moderate used car, you are proportionally closer to Biden in wealth than Biden is to Trump.
Biden would be justified considering himself "poor" and seeing Trump as being "rich" just as you see Biden being rich - Trump is richer than he can conceive of, just as Biden is richer than you can conceive of.
Trust me as someone who is not poor -
A MILLION IS MUCH MUCH MUCH SMALLER THAN A BILLION - THEY'RE NOT THE SAME THING.
That's true even if you can't tell them apart from where you stand.
It's the difference between a single penny and ten dollars. Significant. I'm pretty sure even a poor person like yourself can tell the difference between a penny and ten bucks.

 

[Elixir]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

And was Hunter’s legal outcome (prior to his pardon, of course) fitting his crime? Was it consistent with how others were punished for the same crime?

I don’t know but I have heard that virtually all others who did this crime would not have received the punishment he did. Would that have been fair?

I am truly surprised that Poli can't see the unfairness there. Some kind of ax to grind? I don't know.

 

[RVonse]

But somehow pardoning his son to save him from Trump’s juvenile vengeance … makes Joe just as corrupt as The Felon?

It obviously makes him a fucking corrupt hypocrite, yes. If his son wanted to be protected from the law, he shouldn't have broken it.

But should the punishment fit the crime? Should the criminal justice system be consistent in how it punishes each crime?

Yes, it should.

"If your dad is rich he can make it go away" is not a tenet conducive to upholding that principle, and frankly it happens far too predictably.

Well then grab onto something, because it's going to happen a lot more very soon. The incoming President has promised (not that he ever keeps promises) to pardon everyone convicted of their crimes on January 6th, has already put one convicted felon/family member in his administration, had previously nominated an accused sex trafficker as AG, and now has picked a man for FBI head who has all but come out and said he wants to destroy the nation's top law enforcement agency and/or weaponize it against anyone Trump doesn't like.

On top of that, the 50-some remaining felonies the President-elect was on trial for AND the 34 he was convicted of just went up in a puff of stacked Supreme Court smoke. There will be no punishment whatsoever for his crimes, no punishment for anyone in his incoming administration, and a good chance that a whole lot of people will be rounded up and put into prison camps for the "crime" of having brown skin or a Latino-sounding name.

Plus doctors who try to provide reproductive health to women, pharmacists who prescribe certain medications, journalists who criticize Trump, and a whole host of other people who displease the regime.

But keep holding that grudge against Hunter Biden if that makes you feel better.

Ford, your post has so inspired me now with Biden's morality. Oh thank goodness Biden is not above the law.

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[Elixir]

To put the false equivalence into some kind of perspective, an AI kindly informs me that Hunter's offense is something for which these people DID receive jail time. Is Hunter just like them? IMHO, not hardly, not even a little bit.

• Rod Blagojevich
• Scooter Libby
• Bernard Madoff
• Martha Stewart
• Jeffrey Skilling

Maybe close to Martha Stewart, and poses much less of a threat to society.

 

[RVonse]

Why should the 1/6ers be pardoned?

Because there is a lot of suspicion that the deep state was heavily involved with Jan 6. I posted a video earlier and Joe Rogan who explains it much better and detail than I can. You and others can dismiss Joe Rogan if you want, but there are a lot of people who agree with this sentiment right now.

Most of the rank and file of those agencies are probably honest but the people at the top are corrupt.