Breakdown In Civil Order

[ZiprHead]

You're conservative so you have a bias.

I am not conservative.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Larry Krasner, a fauxgressive DA, is more interested in prosecuting police officers than in prosecuting looters and rioters.

After a judge dismissed murder charges against a cop who killed Eddie Irizarry, he immediately refiled them. Shows his priorities.

The problem is you are equating protesters with looters. Typically they are not the same people! The looters take advantage of the distraction caused by the protest in order to loot.

 

[barbos]

 

[TSwizzle]

A girl of just 14 is among an organized gang of female looters arrested after the latest in a series of brazen daylight raids targeting stores in California. She and her mentors did not even bother to disguise themselves as they ransacked the Nike store in Irvine, grabbing armfuls of clothes as they sauntered around before strolling unchallenged into the street.
The latest raid came as 12 LA counties launched a last-ditch legal challenge to the Democrat state's new zero-bail law, which allows 'presumptive innocent' suspects to return to the streets immediately after arrest.
'The elimination of cash bail for these types of offenses is really an invitation to these kind of folks who are inclined to break the law and inclined to do it so brazenly,' warned Tom Saggau of the LA Police Protective League.
Governor Gavin Newsom has been a fierce defender of the move claiming it would help 'root out racial inequity and structural bias'.
'We will once again have the opportunity to make California a national leader in the unfinished fight for equity and justice,' he said as he campaigned for the measure. But it has sparked a furious reaction in a state where robberies jumped 10 percent last year and nearly 580,000 larcenies were reported to the police.

Daily Mail

Not content with trashing San Francisco when he was mayor, Newsom goes on to trash the state of California and wants to turn it up a notch and trash the country given a chance.

 

[Politesse]

Haha, even the Daily Mail couldn't pretend they hadn't apprehended the culprits.

You really need to get off the British tabloids, they're bad for your brain. Remember when they killed Princess Di trying to get a good shot?

 

[Toni]

Tswizzle advocates for disproportionate violence as long as its someone else getting their hands dirty, more at 11.

I must say, that was very satisfying to watch. I and many others work hard for our money. Why should thieves just get to steal stuff with impunity?

If the authorities are not taking retail theft seriously as a crime, this emboldens thieves like that guy. Eventually, as lawlessness persists, people take matters into their own hands.
Local prosecutors need to start prosecuting retail thefts. Anything else is just anarchy.

I am also reminded of the case in Manhattan, NYC. Alvin Bragg's bailiwick. A brazen serial shoplifter attacked and threatened the security guard, who stabbed and killed him. The DA's office never did anything against the thief, but they were quick to charge the guard who was defending himself with murder.
Security guard charged with murder in fatal stabbing of shoplifter at CVS store near Times Square
Had Bragg actually prosecuted the thief, instead of allowing him to steal over and over again, his death could have been avoided.

The deadly scuffle unfolded at the CVS pharmacy at W. 49th Street and Broadway in Midtown around 12:25 a.m. Thursday after a 50-year-old man with a history of shoplifting arrests tried to steal from the store.
An ensuing argument led to a physical fight in which the shoplifter reportedly punched the security guard in the face and knocked him to the ground. That's when the security guard allegedly stabbed the unidentified man in the torso.

Letting criminals run free, and prosecuting those who dare defend themselves (like Jose Alba and Scotty Enoe) or others (like Daniel Penny). That's the MO of Bragg and the rest of those fauxgressive prosecutors.

To be fair, had the security guard actually done his job and gotten actual police involved instead of… stabbing him to death, this whole thing would not have happened either.

I’m not a fan of shoplifting or theft. I’m even less a fan of capital punishment. Capital punishment without due process is a crime far worse than shoplifting.

 

[Derec]

Haha, even the Daily Mail couldn't pretend they hadn't apprehended the culprits.

The problem is not police catching them. The problem is the state and local governments, including fauxgressive prosecutors, going easy on thieves. Including the no bail policies and the failure of the state government (headed by Gov. Goodhair) to build enough prisons leading to many criminals being released early.

You really need to get off the British tabloids, they're bad for your brain. Remember when they killed Princess Di trying to get a good shot?

She was killed because her drunk driver was driving through the streets of Paris as if he was Nicolas Latifi, crashing at 120 mph.
Blaming DM for this is quite insane. Not to mention old news.

 

[Politesse]

Haha, even the Daily Mail couldn't pretend they hadn't apprehended the culprits.

The problem is not police catching them. The problem is the state and local governments, including fauxgressive prosecutors, going easy on thieves. Including the no bail policies and the failure of the state government (headed by Gov. Goodhair) to build enough prisons leading to many criminals being released early.

You really need to get off the British tabloids, they're bad for your brain. Remember when they killed Princess Di trying to get a good shot?

She was killed because her drunk driver was driving through the streets of Paris as if he was Nicolas Latifi, crashing at 120 mph.
Blaming DM for this is quite insane. Not to mention old news.

You hear that from the Daily Mail? Lol!

Next you'll be telling me Newsom killed Bat Boy.

 

[Derec]

To be fair, had the security guard actually done his job and gotten actual police involved instead of… stabbing him to death, this whole thing would not have happened either.

The victim was being punched. There was no time to wait for police to arrive. He had the means to defend himself, and he used them. He should not be prosecuted for self-defense, just because Alvin Bragg and his chipmunks sympathize more with robbers than with store security guards.

I’m not a fan of shoplifting or theft. I’m even less a fan of capital punishment. Capital punishment without due process is a crime far worse than shoplifting.

It was not capital punishment. It was self defense. And the dead guy used force to steal, which makes it robbery, not mere shoplifting.

 

[Derec]

You hear that from the Daily Mail? Lol!

BBC good enough for you? Or are DailyKos, Jacobin and Mother Jones the only acceptable sources for you?
Crash Driver Was Over Alcohol Limit - Prosecutors

Prosecuting authorities say the driver of the Mercedes car which crashed, killing Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed, had well over the legal level of alcohol in his blood.
The driver, Henri Paul, 41, was also killed in the crash, early on Sunday. It happened as the car was being pursued by paparazzi photographers.

Investigators have said that they believe the car was travelling at 196kph (121mph) when it crashed.

The Paris public prosecutors' office said in a statement: "The blood analysis revealed that the alcohol level was illegal."

Analysis indicated that Mr Paul had 175 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, compared with the legal limit of 50 milligrammes per 100 millilitres. The level equates to his having drunk more than a bottle of wine.

Under French law, blood-alcohol levels of between 50 and 80 milligrammes per 100 millilitres are regarded as a misdemeanour; levels over 80 are a crime. Levels vary throughout Europe. In the UK, there is a single limit of 80 milligrammes per 100 millilitres.

Next you'll be telling me Newsom killed Bat Boy.

I don't know. Did he? What are your sources saying?

 

[Derec]

The problem is you are equating protesters with looters. Typically they are not the same people! The looters take advantage of the distraction caused by the protest in order to loot.

I am not. Some looters use the protests/riots as distraction for personal gain. But others use looting and vandalism as a protest tactic.
The problem with you and people like Krasner is that you keep pretending that the two groups are disjoint sets.
In reality, there is a significant intersection between the two. And #BLM leaders even advocated for looting as a protest tactic.

 

[Derec]

I am not conservative.

You are hysterical indeed. Just because I criticize Biden for caving to the radical left wing, and because I loathe radical left wingers like Gascon, does not make me a conservative.
Let's see. I support gay marriage, abortion (mostly), am against government censorship and interference in people's sex lives. I do not think government spending is automatically bad (but it's not automatically good either). I support things like progressive taxation (although the heavy subsidy of those with children is bad as it has parents making $100k pay less taxes than childfree making $30k) and government spendng on education and infrastructure. I have many truly liberal positions, more so than some fauxgressives on here.

 

[Toni]

To be fair, had the security guard actually done his job and gotten actual police involved instead of… stabbing him to death, this whole thing would not have happened either.

The victim was being punched. There was no time to wait for police to arrive. He had the means to defend himself, and he used them. He should not be prosecuted for self-defense, just because Alvin Bragg and his chipmunks sympathize more with robbers than with store security guards.

I’m not a fan of shoplifting or theft. I’m even less a fan of capital punishment. Capital punishment without due process is a crime far worse than shoplifting.

It was not capital punishment. It was self defense. And the dead guy used force to steal, which makes it robbery, not mere shoplifting.

You’d have more of a point of the security guard had done his job and called in robbery in progress before he stabbed the homeless man instead of after the man was dead. We don’t know who threw the first punch but the guard obviously waited too long to call the police.

 

[ZiprHead]

Haha, even the Daily Mail couldn't pretend they hadn't apprehended the culprits.

The problem is not police catching them. The problem is the state and local governments, including fauxgressive prosecutors, going easy on thieves. Including the no bail policies and the failure of the state government (headed by Gov. Goodhair) to build enough prisons leading to many criminals being released early.

1 year after Chesa Boudin's recall, is San Francisco safer under his successor's more punitive policies?

Brooke Jenkins took office one year ago this week promising more prosecution for drug and property crime offenders. Crime and overdoses still went up.

reason.com

 

[thebeave]

There's something to be said for doing your shopping online...

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I find it odd how gun related homicides have increased adjacent to a ridiculous increase in firearm purchases. It is almost like the two things are connected.

 

[TSwizzle]

Another shocking incident in Newsom's lawless California;

Bay Area store clerk was set ablaze by a homeless serial shoplifter as he tried to stop him from stealing. Suraj, who declined to provide his last name for fear of being targeted again, can be seen trying to wrestle Kendall Burton, 38, before being doused in lighter fluid. The surveillance footage shows Suraj's head consumed by flames as another store clerk runs to his rescue with a baseball bat.

Daily Mail

Newsom 2024!!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is Newsom also responsible for the vagrant that was causing problems for the place I worked in a different state, including multiple break-ins, mercifully stealing our pool car (good riddance!), theft of petty cash, and ultimately a short fisticuff which led to him being flattened?

Reminds me of the Big Lebowski asking the officer if they had any leads on the theft of his car. What happened at the store sounds absolutely awful... and someone would need to be pretty partisan to try and use it as a political foil.

 

[Thomas II]

 

[TomC]

It's obvious who is behind this crime wave.
Jeff Bezos
What better way to boost online shopping than make stores unsafe for both shoppers and retailers, especially high end stuff.
Tom