Cartoonists around the world satirize Trump

[iolo]

American politics mystify outsiders. I put the problem down to Senator McCarthy's abolishing political choice way back when, but you'd think people would have broken free of the Cold War by now. The Russians did, after all.

Ya, but Obama has more qualms about just straight up murdering his political opponents than Putin does. That means that alternative continues to exist for the Leader.

Well, that's just a Russian folk-custom, like those funny dolls. I think that if you elect Trump you'll certainly adopt the same approach.

 

[funinspace]

I don't get how Trump promising to be a terrorist is better than anyone mongering a war. .'

Trump wants to kill terrorists families and terrorists.
Clinton and the other Republicans will kill terrorists and there families and untold innocent civilians and bomb and invade countries who pose no threat and probably start a nuclear war.
For the world, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

Killing "terrorists" and their families is akin to getting rid of waste and fraud by deleting that line item in a budget. It is fakery and a bullshit answer. Of course much of what Trump says is pure BS, not that this is much different than most of our politicos. His difference is that his statements are outrageous, more so than it being regular politico BS. The lemming voters want Easy Button answers, so most politicos comply with regular BS. And the terrorist families are live in places like Jordan, Tunisia, Lebanon, Chechnya, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Morrocco, et.al. So just how could he kill them? Do you think these countries would just let us walk into their countries and start executing families? Of course not. Though he could do so in places like Libya that have already been reduced to utter chaos without much objection from the usual western cheer leaders. So, even if this fantasy were true, it would require supercharging the current drone wars, radically increasing the number of "untold innocent civilians killed and countries invaded".

Second, Trump has several times called for an invasion to "deal" with ISIS. Of course this assumes that this isn't just more BS. So he would evidently invade Iraq and Syria, sounds like another Shrub....
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-30000-troops-isis/

At the CNN-hosted debate Thursday night, the Republican presidential front-runner sounded a different note.

"We really have no choice. We have to knock out ISIS," he said. "I would listen to the generals, but I'm hearing numbers of 20,000 to 30,000."

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Why do you believe Trump?

I believe him more than I believe the others, apart from Sanders.
Trump has been a critic of America's crminal wars since at least 2004. Clinton has been a gutless aplogist.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqA2Hs5dTFM[/YOUTUBE]

This does not answer the question

Quote from Trump on who he consults about foreign policy

"I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain. And I've said a lot of things."
- Donald J. Trump

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...ultant-is-myself-645588035836?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

So I ask you again, why do you trust Trump?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Really?? It's less warmongering to say you'll not only go after ISIS, but you'll kill their families as well and you'll reinstitute waterboarding and much worse??

Trump threatened Isis because Isis threatened America. And he threatened to do to them the exact same thing they do to others.
Hillary Clinton is far far worse. She has personally been involved in the destruction of entire nations that did not threaten America.
I can't see why this is so hard to get.

It's not hard to get. But you used the word "warmongering", so I thought you meant "warmongering". And Trump has been doing more warmongering in his campaign than any other candidate, including Hilary.

 

[SimpleDon]

And the incredible thing about Trump is that his proposed policies are virtually indistinguishable from the other Republican presidential candidates now. When he started last summer he supported higher taxes for the rich, strong support for Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid and universal health care. In the ensuing months he seems to have learned that his angry American supporters want ever larger tax cuts for the rich, ever higher medical costs and the dissolution of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

A man of the people.

American politics mystify outsiders. I put the problem down to Senator McCarthy's abolishing political choice way back when, but you'd think people would have broken free of the Cold War by now. The Russians did, after all.

A cynic would say that some of our political idea drivers need boogeymen to scare their followers, Commies, immigrants, Islamic terrorists, criminals (thugs) running unchecked, Derec's obsession with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), etc.

Since I don't have a single cynical bone in my body though, I can't explain this.

 

[SimpleDon]

And the incredible thing about Trump is that his proposed policies are virtually indistinguishable from the other Republican presidential candidates now. When he started last summer he supported higher taxes for the rich, strong support for Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid and universal health care. In the ensuing months he seems to have learned that his angry American supporters want ever larger tax cuts for the rich, ever higher medical costs and the dissolution of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

A man of the people.

As I understand it, he's been intentionally vague about all of his policies so that he commits to as little as possible so that he can run as a centrist once the nomination is locked up. Sanders fucked up that plan for Clinton and made her commit to more left wing stuff than she would have been comfortable with absent him, but Trump's been far more sizzle than steak so it's less of a 180 when he becomes a different candidate in the general election.

A cynic would say that he is intentionally vague about his policies because he doesn't really have any or that he doesn't understand enough to form actual policies. Fortunately for the Trump supporters here there also aren't any cynics here.

 

[fromderinside]

As I understand it, he's been intentionally vague about all of his policies so that he commits to as little as possible so that he can run as a centrist once the nomination is locked up. Sanders fucked up that plan for Clinton and made her commit to more left wing stuff than she would have been comfortable with absent him, but Trump's been far more sizzle than steak so it's less of a 180 when he becomes a different candidate in the general election.

A cynic would say that he is intentionally vague about his policies because he doesn't really have any or that he doesn't understand enough to form actual policies. Fortunately for the Trump supporters here there also aren't any cynics here.

...another example of liberals over analyzing the obvious....?......!

 

[SimpleDon]

I think people give Trump way too much credit for strategic thinking. I don't think he's using any more forethought or, well, thought at all, than a third grade bully. He's always been high on ego, and now he's been introduced to the really potent shit.

I don't know about that. This is the guy who's spent the past year running circles around the entire GOP establishment. While it's true that that can be likened to winning the slam dunk contest at a midget convention, his skills in this area can't simply be dismissed offhand.

Regardless of anything else one can say about him, he does know how to sell and the product that he's pushing now isn't a product that people will be interested in buying during the general election. His lack of specificity at the moment allows him to bitch about how the media's been misrepresenting him and he never actually said anything like whatever he's being accused of saying and this is his actual position. While there will, of course, be instances of that answer being followed by a video clip of his saying that exact thing which he can then ignore and change the subject about, there will be many more where he can't actually be pinned down on the subject and he knows it.

I think that Trump will be much harder to beat than people are giving him credit for right now. He will run as a conservative orthodoxy candidate, the same reality free platform that Republicans have run on since 1964. He will just continue to refuse to use the dog whistles that Republicans have used for 52 years to cover the ugliness of their true meaning.

 

[SimpleDon]

A cynic would say that he is intentionally vague about his policies because he doesn't really have any or that he doesn't understand enough to form actual policies. Fortunately for the Trump supporters here there also aren't any cynics here.

...another example of liberals over analyzing the obvious....?......!

... an example of the failure to recognize a joke ...

And I am not a liberal...

 

[Elixir]

Trump is able to effectively de-humanize his opposition. So nobody will complain when he starts killing off dissenters. For the rest of the world, that means all your support are belong to us - or else.

Hillary is far less of a danger to the rest of the world because
1) she is more likely to seek the approval of congress before going on any given murderous rampage, and
2) is far less likely to get it than a Republican (even Trump) would be

 

[iolo]

American politics mystify outsiders. I put the problem down to Senator McCarthy's abolishing political choice way back when, but you'd think people would have broken free of the Cold War by now. The Russians did, after all.

A cynic would say that some of our political idea drivers need boogeymen to scare their followers, Commies, immigrants, Islamic terrorists, criminals (thugs) running unchecked, Derec's obsession with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), etc.

Since I don't have a single cynical bone in my body though, I can't explain this.

Like it. I too find the world puzzling, since I was brought up to believe what I was told!

 

[funinspace]

Not a cartoon, but a German float

 

[fromderinside]

...another example of liberals over analyzing the obvious....?......!

... an example of the failure to recognize a joke ...

And I am not a liberal...

That's a joke. Right?

 

[RavenSky]

As I understand it, he's been intentionally vague about all of his policies so that he commits to as little as possible so that he can run as a centrist once the nomination is locked up. Sanders fucked up that plan for Clinton and made her commit to more left wing stuff than she would have been comfortable with absent him, but Trump's been far more sizzle than steak so it's less of a 180 when he becomes a different candidate in the general election.

I think people give Trump way too much credit for strategic thinking. I don't think he's using any more forethought or, well, thought at all, than a third grade bully. He's always been high on ego, and now he's been introduced to the really potent shit.

yep

 

[Will Wiley]

I think people give Trump way too much credit for strategic thinking. I don't think he's using any more forethought or, well, thought at all, than a third grade bully. He's always been high on ego, and now he's been introduced to the really potent shit.

yep

What rubbish. Every other major candidate (with the possible exception of Sanders) is going to pursue the same failed neocon policy that has brought America to the brink of bankruptcy, and has them hated around the globe. That being to prevent the emergence of a rival in Eurasia. That strategy has FAILED.
Rather than provoking Russia like that imbecile Hillary Clinton, Trump would talk to Putin and possibly mend the rift that has developed under the present bunch of idiots.
That is one place where his strategy is superior.
A multi-polar world is emerging, and the stupid neocons will never accept that, and that is a very bad strategy.

Trump or Sanders is the best hope to pull away from a failed strategy that will continue to fail...it's mysterious that Americans appear to think the failed neocon strategy is working

 

[whichphilosophy]

yep

What rubbish. Every other major candidate (with the possible exception of Sanders) is going to pursue the same failed neocon policy that has brought America to the brink of bankruptcy, and has them hated around the globe. That being to prevent the emergence of a rival in Eurasia. That strategy has FAILED.
Rather than provoking Russia like that imbecile Hillary Clinton, Trump would talk to Putin and possibly mend the rift that has developed under the present bunch of idiots.
That is one place where his strategy is superior.
A multi-polar world is emerging, and the stupid neocons will never accept that, and that is a very bad strategy.

Trump or Sanders is the best hope to pull away from a failed strategy that will continue to fail...it's mysterious that Americans appear to think the failed neocon strategy is working

These are good points. The US has wasted trillions of dollars of tax payers money on futile wars to protect the oil monopolies of its favoured corporations. Russia is a potential great ally against the problems in Syria and even other countries as a result of the mess the US and its allies have made in the region. I doubt it will take much to resolve the differences which seem to stem from perceived rivalry and the end of the cold war.

We don't appreciate it but we are more or less involved in WWIII where there are no clear borders and often no armies involved.

Russia, not the US took the initiative to driving ISIS out of many of its key locations. The next goal is to allow the Middle East to recover from the human disasters brought about by our Western policies.

Regardless of what his shortcomings may be, if he can assist to stop any more costly conflicts in terms of lives and dollars, more can be spent on helping US Citizens (of all ethnic background) in need.

The US does not have a problem with immigration but the volume of such, where it is not in fully in control of the illegal traffic entering the US, hoping to stay there illegally until the next amnesty.

Brilliant cartoons.

 

[RavenSky]

yep

What rubbish. Every other major candidate (with the possible exception of Sanders) is going to pursue the same failed neocon policy that has brought America to the brink of bankruptcy, and has them hated around the globe. That being to prevent the emergence of a rival in Eurasia. That strategy has FAILED.
Rather than provoking Russia like that imbecile Hillary Clinton, Trump would talk to Putin and possibly mend the rift that has developed under the present bunch of idiots.
That is one place where his strategy is superior.
A multi-polar world is emerging, and the stupid neocons will never accept that, and that is a very bad strategy.

Trump or Sanders is the best hope to pull away from a failed strategy that will continue to fail...it's mysterious that Americans appear to think the failed neocon strategy is working

1. You seem to have forgotten who you are talking to now. I voted for Bernie.
2. Trump - if he were to run this country as he currently says he intends to - would be the very worst thing to happen to the entire world in forever. The ONLY good thing I can say about him is that I think he is a giant liar and would not actually do most of what he says. He would simply line his pockets with gold like any third world despot.

 

[Underseer]

Cartoonists Overseas Take on Donald Trump

This one from Ireland is the most apt in my opinion.

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Obviously, people from other countries are just jealous of us. That is why they unfairly bash a great man like patriot Trump. They only wish they could live in a nation as great as America, and that's why we need Trump to Make America Great Again! [/conservolibertarian]

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Not a cartoon, but a German float

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Why do you hate America?

 

[Will Wiley]

What rubbish. Every other major candidate (with the possible exception of Sanders) is going to pursue the same failed neocon policy that has brought America to the brink of bankruptcy, and has them hated around the globe. That being to prevent the emergence of a rival in Eurasia. That strategy has FAILED.
Rather than provoking Russia like that imbecile Hillary Clinton, Trump would talk to Putin and possibly mend the rift that has developed under the present bunch of idiots.
That is one place where his strategy is superior.
A multi-polar world is emerging, and the stupid neocons will never accept that, and that is a very bad strategy.

Trump or Sanders is the best hope to pull away from a failed strategy that will continue to fail...it's mysterious that Americans appear to think the failed neocon strategy is working

1. You seem to have forgotten who you are talking to now. I voted for Bernie.

ok

2. Trump - if he were to run this country as he currently says he intends to - would be the very worst thing to happen to the entire world in forever. The ONLY good thing I can say about him is that I think he is a giant liar and would not actually do most of what he says. He would simply line his pockets with gold like any third world despot.

So you imagine he will be bad? I'd prefer to go with evidence

 

[RavenSky]

2. Trump - if he were to run this country as he currently says he intends to - would be the very worst thing to happen to the entire world in forever. The ONLY good thing I can say about him is that I think he is a giant liar and would not actually do most of what he says. He would simply line his pockets with gold like any third world despot.

So you imagine he will be bad? I'd prefer to go with evidence

The EVIDENCE says he will be very very very bad for the entire world. The EVIDENCE says (per his own words) that he intends to blow up half the world, kill the families of "terrorists", send "20,000 - 30,000" troops into other countries, and pick fights with other world leaders.

I IMAGINE him to be far more bluster than truthful, but even at that he would be a horrible choice if what you care about is protecting the rest of the world from the President of the USA