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Democrats 2020

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/22/come-bidens-you-aint-black-comment-was-clearly-joke/

The linked editorial was written by an actual black man who is a well known among those of us who read WaPo or watch him on MSNBC. I applaud Capehart for not being a little super sensitive person who loves to play the victim. Here's a few lines from his opinion piece that tell it like it is.

As you might imagine, Biden did a lot of the talking. But Charlamagne did a lot of nodding as Biden walked through his biography, defense of the good things from the 1994 crime bill and policy proposals for the future. Twice, a Biden staffer attempted to end the interview that was taped on Thursday, not for pernicious purposes but because Jill Biden had a virtual organizing event with Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms set for 6 p.m. The first time was at 11 minutes into the conversation. But Biden pushed through and talked for another six minutes. The second time came at the 17-minute mark right after Biden said, “I guarantee you, there are multiple black women being considered. Multiple.”

The part below is about how Biden needed to leave and Charlamagne tried to keep him back. They both seemed to be joking around with each other from my perspective.

After the staffer’s second try, Charlamagne said, “You can’t do that to black media.” He said it leaning into the camera as Biden said, “I gotta do that to white media and black media because my wife has to go on at 6 o’clock.” Glancing at his watch, Biden said, “Uh oh! I’m in trouble.” Charlamagne laughs and asks that Biden come see the Breakfast Club crew in New York because November is a long way off and they have a lot more questions. “You got more questions, but I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black,” Biden said with a smile on his face.
When heard in the context of the previous 17 minutes and 21 seconds, you know that Biden is joking around. Perhaps he got a little too comfortable talking to a community with which he has a strong relationship that spans decades. Add to that being the vice president to the nation’s first black president and you know his affinity with black folks runs deep.

I'm thankful that Capehart, who is a black gay man, set the record straight.

And, why the double standard? Trump is an obvious racist, who has made numerous insulting remarks, including referring to African countries as shit holes. Remember when he was running for president and one black guy showed up, and Trump said, "There's MY African American". Oh wow. He had one black guy at his rally. Trump constantly insults women, minorities, etc. with little push back from the Right, but Biden makes one remark jokingly and he's attacked by both conservatives and liberals. Trump has done another to help the black community. He even seems to support voter suppression and doesn't give a fuck about the high number of black citizens who have been infected with COVID-19. That's sick.

OMG! MSNBC is still making a big issue of this today, and oddly enough, it's mostly white folks that seem to be disturbed by it.

Plus, Biden has already apologized for making the remark, while Trump has never apologized for a single thing that he's said or done. He's never taken the blame for any of his many fuckups. Biden did what a mature person does. He didn't mean to insult anyone with his off the cuff joke, but when he realized that some did take his remark the wrong way, he apologized because he is able to put himself in the other person's place. It's called empathy. How nice it would be to have a president who is willing to admit his mistakes, and can easily admit that he's not always right. How nice it would be to have a president who doesn't punish or fire people for criticizing him.

Speaking of empathy. I watched his interview on Cobert the other night. He was asked for advice on how to manage the loss of people you love. He did get very emotional and probably went on for too long. But, then I got to thinking. How nice to have a man running for president that has feelings and empathy for others. That's what we need now as much as anything.
 
Dear god, the man is a walking disaster. We're screwed. He always does this, torpedoes his campaigns with some dumbass gaffe, and then makes things worse with his response.

We are going to be saddled with a fascist dictator because "moderate Democrats" were more comfortable electing a senile centrist than a charismatic candidate who says "socialism" sometimes.

Why the freakout? Who's going to change their vote over this?
 
Arguments from the pet center at the peanut gallery.

Biden is a leader, got his DNA all over legislation, on women's rights, black rights, union rights, healthcare, childcare, education, and most things constraining the military industrial complex, crime, and a bunch of other liberal and social issues.

Bills sponsored by Joe Biden

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/110 89 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/109 41 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/108 37 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/107 46 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/106 29 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/105 17 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/B000444/bills-sponsored/104 16 bills

That's 275 bills in all. Pretty active for a centrist I must say.

OK Know-nothings It's education time.

If you can't get something out of just the titles you are dumber than I believe you to be.

Oh, right. I forgot. You don't, won't, can't read.

Hey, low watt bulbs, what you are looking at is the most cursory - superficial- level of research.
 
Dear god, the man is a walking disaster. We're screwed. He always does this, torpedoes his campaigns with some dumbass gaffe, and then makes things worse with his response.

We are going to be saddled with a fascist dictator because "moderate Democrats" were more comfortable electing a senile centrist than a charismatic candidate who says "socialism" sometimes.

Why the freakout? Who's going to change their vote over this?

In the US, it's not about changing votes, it's about getting them to vote at all. The true partisan martinets for each side already knew who they were voting for before there were any nominees. Red or Dead, Blue No Matter Who. But that isn't who gets to choose the next President, not by themselves.

And it's not just "this", but the fact that "this" will keep happening.
 
Dear god, the man is a walking disaster. We're screwed. He always does this, torpedoes his campaigns with some dumbass gaffe, and then makes things worse with his response.

We are going to be saddled with a fascist dictator because "moderate Democrats" were more comfortable electing a senile centrist than a charismatic candidate who says "socialism" sometimes.
Those grapes never do get less sour, do they?

You think Mr. Sanders had a chance. Many voters thought Mr. Sanders would get his ass kicked. Many voters looked at Mr. Sander's record of big talk but little production compared to Mr. Biden's output. Frankly, whenever I heard Mr. Sanders speak, his rhetoric could stir the emotions, but his plans were nowhere near achievable. IMO.

Of course, IMO, our process winnows out the best candidates early. Neither Mr. Biden nor Mr. Sanders were in my top 10 at the start.

Now, of course, we will never know if Mr. Sanders would have beaten Mr. Trump. IF Mr. Biden wins, it won't matter much. If Mr. Biden loses, it will allow all the Bernie bros to continue their smugness.
 
Dear god, the man is a walking disaster. We're screwed. He always does this, torpedoes his campaigns with some dumbass gaffe, and then makes things worse with his response.

We are going to be saddled with a fascist dictator because "moderate Democrats" were more comfortable electing a senile centrist than a charismatic candidate who says "socialism" sometimes.
Those grapes never do get less sour, do they?

You think Mr. Sanders had a chance. Many voters thought Mr. Sanders would get his ass kicked. Many voters looked at Mr. Sander's record of big talk but little production compared to Mr. Biden's output. Frankly, whenever I heard Mr. Sanders speak, his rhetoric could stir the emotions, but his plans were nowhere near achievable. IMO.

Of course, IMO, our process winnows out the best candidates early. Neither Mr. Biden nor Mr. Sanders were in my top 10 at the start.

Now, of course, we will never know if Mr. Sanders would have beaten Mr. Trump. IF Mr. Biden wins, it won't matter much. If Mr. Biden loses, it will allow all the Bernie bros to continue their smugness.

I'm not smug, I'm completely depressed,.
 
Dear god, the man is a walking disaster. We're screwed. He always does this, torpedoes his campaigns with some dumbass gaffe, and then makes things worse with his response.

We are going to be saddled with a fascist dictator because "moderate Democrats" were more comfortable electing a senile centrist than a charismatic candidate who says "socialism" sometimes.
Those grapes never do get less sour, do they?

You think Mr. Sanders had a chance. Many voters thought Mr. Sanders would get his ass kicked. Many voters looked at Mr. Sander's record of big talk but little production compared to Mr. Biden's output. Frankly, whenever I heard Mr. Sanders speak, his rhetoric could stir the emotions, but his plans were nowhere near achievable. IMO.

Of course, IMO, our process winnows out the best candidates early. Neither Mr. Biden nor Mr. Sanders were in my top 10 at the start.

Now, of course, we will never know if Mr. Sanders would have beaten Mr. Trump. IF Mr. Biden wins, it won't matter much. If Mr. Biden loses, it will allow all the Bernie bros to continue their smugness.

I'm not smug, I'm completely depressed,.

Try imagining things from a woman's perspective.
 
I'm not smug, I'm completely depressed,.

Try imagining things from a woman's perspective.

And I'm a gay socialist, want to play minority bingo?

Nope but at least you’ve always had the chance to see someone of your gender as POTUS. Socialist? Not yet and maybe never. Gay? Not yet at least not openly but one or two perhaps. Cold comfort, I know.

But me? I no longer believe I will before I die. I’ve lived my entire life being told that girls couldn’t do this or that or that women were just not cut out to be POTUS. This year feels like the hardest slap of all: a three way with doddering old white men—until Bernie dropped out. Fuck it. Trump is a rapist. Bernie imagines women fantasize about being gang raped and Biden is accused (not credibly) of sexual assault. It’s a great time to be a woman.
 
And I'm a gay socialist, want to play minority bingo?

Nope but at least you’ve always had the chance to see someone of your gender as POTUS. Socialist? Not yet and maybe never. Gay? Not yet at least not openly but one or two perhaps. Cold comfort, I know.

But me? I no longer believe I will before I die. I’ve lived my entire life being told that girls couldn’t do this or that or that women were just not cut out to be POTUS. This year feels like the hardest slap of all: a three way with doddering old white men—until Bernie dropped out. Fuck it. Trump is a rapist. Bernie imagines women fantasize about being gang raped and Biden is accused (not credibly) of sexual assault. It’s a great time to be a woman.

Well, I don't disagree with you on any of the above.

Personally, I'm more worried about actual legal persecution than representation issues, but that isn't because they aren't important.
 
And I'm a gay socialist, want to play minority bingo?

Nope but at least you’ve always had the chance to see someone of your gender as POTUS. Socialist? Not yet and maybe never. Gay? Not yet at least not openly but one or two perhaps. Cold comfort, I know.

But me? I no longer believe I will before I die. I’ve lived my entire life being told that girls couldn’t do this or that or that women were just not cut out to be POTUS. This year feels like the hardest slap of all: a three way with doddering old white men—until Bernie dropped out. Fuck it. Trump is a rapist. Bernie imagines women fantasize about being gang raped and Biden is accused (not credibly) of sexual assault. It’s a great time to be a woman.

Well, I don't disagree with you on any of the above.

Personally, I'm more worried about actual legal persecution than representation issues, but that isn't because they aren't important.

I have reached the belief that it is impossible to make progress in eliminating legal persecution without some actual representation.
 
Well, I don't disagree with you on any of the above.

Personally, I'm more worried about actual legal persecution than representation issues, but that isn't because they aren't important.

I have reached the belief that it is impossible to make progress in eliminating legal persecution without some actual representation.

Also true.
 
Yep, and it was Nixon who created the EPA, and it is pretty clear angelo didn't read the link of Gingrich praising the merits of Green Conservatism.

You're still holding the line that the gentlemen you mentioned were greens? Are you crazy, or just pretending to be? Having an environment policy does not make one a greenie!
I realize that you are simply fixated within your itty bitty world of hate for everything not alt-right, but you are carping on just 3 words 'moderate green libertarian', while knowing next to nothing of my views. I am not a Green or a greenie (especially as you would define it). Those 3 words are just a sliver of a window's view into my views. Maybe you should try to comprehend another's POV before hurling your favorite play thing...monkey shit.

Anyway, my point still stands, why would anyone pay any attention to your twisted commentary when you label Biden as a pedophile, while licking Clownstick's ass...

If you happen to be married with a little girl, would you leave them in the care of creepy Joe? His senility alone would place them in danger!
 
Ugh - I cringed when I read Biden’s comment about “you’re not a black person if...”

Height of privilege. At least he has the self awareness to accept the feedback that it was offensive, though that’s a small consolation.


However, if given a choice between his careless privilege, and Trump’s malignant hate, I still know which I prefer.

The worst part is that while he said it in a way that will most certainly damage his chances, the thing he was trying to communicate, poorly, is true: a black person voting for Trump is like a Jew voting for Hitler; it is a direct violation of self-interest and an insult to the culture and community from which the person so doing came from.

If just half African/Americans and Hispanics as this poll shows support the Trump, he may well do a clean sweep of all 50 states! Wouldn't that be something! [admittedly this poll was pre Chinese flu. ]

https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/black-voters-donald-trump-support-1.39184208
 
Ah, just the one who actually needs to read a bit.

If just half African/Americans and Hispanics as this poll shows support the Trump, he may well do a clean sweep of all 50 states! Wouldn't that be something! [admittedly this poll was pre Chinese flu. ]

https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/black-voters-donald-trump-support-1.39184208

Arguments from the pet center at the peanut gallery.

Biden is a leader, got his DNA all over legislation, on women's rights, black rights, union rights, healthcare, childcare, education, and most things constraining the military industrial complex, crime, and a bunch of other liberal and social issues.

Bills sponsored by Joe Biden

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/110 89 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/109 41 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/108 37 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/107 46 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/106 29 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/105 17 bills

https://projects.propublica.org/repr...-sponsored/104 16 bills

That's 275 bills in all. Pretty active for a centrist I must say.

OK Know-nothings It's education time.

If you can't get something out of just the titles you are dumber than I believe you to be.

Oh, right. I forgot. You don't, won't, can't read.

Hey, low watt bulbs, what you are looking at is the most cursory - superficial- level of research.
 
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