I do not identify as male. I just am male.
An appeal to magic? You say it, therefore it is?
The exact opposite. It is, therefore I say it.
But when other people say things, you call them liars, even they are telling you
their gender identity, which they have more reason to know than any other person alive.
I have never disputed somebody's claimed gender identity (even though obviously they can lie about that if they want to).
I just don't care what their gender identity is. It's like you volunteering your star sign. I did not ask and do not care.
You have done this over and over and over in this thread. You really think we're stupid enough to forget that?
I'm glad you're ashamed enough about this behavior to lie about it, though.
You made a false statement about me. You said:
But when other people say things, you call them liars, even they are telling you their gender identity, which they have more reason to know than any other person alive.
I have never said somebody is lying about their gender identity. Not once. Stop your false accusations.
You have repeatedly implied that trans individuals are basing their claims of identity on ‘thoughts in their heads’ and that ‘thoughts in your head’ do not determine sex.''
Correct.
The unavoidable conclusion is that in your opinion, trans individuals are either lying or delusional because they insist something is true that you believe is impossible to be true.
If a biological male believes he is instead a biological female because his gender identity is 'female', then he is delusional, yes. That doesn't make him a liar, it makes him delusional.
If a biological male believes his 'gender identity' of 'female' means he should have access to single-sex spaces designed for females, I would not say that is a lie, it's simply an incoherent and selfish demand.
So, Politesse did not lie about you.
Good grief, why are you defending Politesse? Why are you insinuating that the stream of insulting abuse he spewed at Metaphor was fact-based? Why are you implying that what's at issue is whether Politesse
lied? Whether he lied is between him and whatever logic-deficient procedure he uses to self-induce his imbecilic beliefs. The matters for public determination are whether what Politesse said
was true, and whether he had
substantive reasons to think it was true.
Politesse committed
libel. Even if he irrationally believed what he said, it's was still libelous. What he wrote was false and damaging and he wrote it with reckless disregard for the truth.
But when other people say things, you call them liars, even they are telling you their gender identity, which they have more reason to know than any other person alive.
Metaphor did not call anyone a liar for telling him about his or her gender identity. That was an invention by Politesse. He made it up.
I just don't care what their gender identity is. It's like you volunteering your star sign. I did not ask and do not care.
You have done this over and over and over in this thread. You really think we're stupid enough to forget that?
I'm glad you're ashamed enough about this behavior to lie about it, though.
What Metaphor has done over and over in this thread is disagreed with claims Politesse agrees with, explained his own position, and corrected other posters' misrepresentations of his position. Politesse chose to interpret those disagreements as "call them liars" even though Metaphor's arguments were plainly perfectly compatible with the people making those claims simply being
wrong. And then Politesse chose to compound his false accusation of Metaphor calling others liars with a trumped-up groundless accusation that Metaphor himself was lying. Metaphor obviously believed what he said. Politesse appears to have taken that final rhetorical potshot out of pure malice.
The unavoidable conclusion is that in your opinion, trans individuals are either lying or delusional because they insist something is true that you believe is impossible to be true.
Why on earth would you imagine that this unavoidable conclusion supports Politesse rather than Metaphor in their dispute? Politesse was maliciously prosecuting Metaphor on a false trumped-up charge, and
you just provided Metaphor an eloquent defense. Exactly which part of "in your opinion" did you not understand when you were typing it? Even if Metaphor had been of the opinion that a person stating his or her gender identity was lying, so what? "In your opinion"
is not the criterion for "you call them liars". You know that, don't you? In order for "you call them liars" to be true, Metaphor would have to
say they were liars, not merely
think it. This is not rocket science.
Furthermore, exactly which part of "or delusional" did you not understand when you were typing it? You put in that disjunction precisely because what Metaphor wrote was perfectly compatible with him thinking trans individuals are delusional, and you knew it, so you'd have had no basis for inferring that in his opinion trans individuals are lying, so you quite sensibly didn't infer it. That being the case, why the devil did you then jump from that unavoidable lemma to the very avoidable
and avoidworthy conclusion that your reply was any sort of substantive counterargument to Metaphor's reply -- "I have never said somebody is lying about their gender identity. Not once. Stop your false accusations." -- to Politesse's insulting false accusation?
Now being gay or trans is a choice, is it?
I know an imperfect self replicator who has an inclination to self-replicate, so he makes sperm-bank donations, and women he doesn't know have had his babies. But the vast majority of sentient imperfect self replicators have an inclination to copulate, not an inclination to self-replicate -- and most of those have no clue that the one leads to the other. And the vast majority of imperfect self replicators are non-sentient and therefore have no inclinations whatsoever.
