I responded to Genesis' claim that strip clubs are horrible establishments for women. Then laughing dog dug in claiming that $48k is not a good amount of money for an individual to earn.
- No, but their earnings are going to go down somewhat. Easier to spend expense account money than your own.
- Strip clubs are a modern phenomenon. What does blackballing strip clubs have to do with "joining the modern society"? If anything it's the opposite. Conservative religion and radical feminism are both pulling us in a very regressive direction.
Women stripping to titillate men is not a modern phenomenon. So, stop making shit up.
https://www.medicalbag.com/grey-matter/the-history-of-stripping/article/472394/
called "exotic dancers." The establishments they work in are commonly called strip clubs but their proprietors prefer to call their businesses "gentlemen's clubs." Bottom line is that women in this industry get paid to sexually titillate men by dancing suggestively in as little clothing as possible without getting arrested, and in locations where laws allow, they dance totally nude. Regardless of the nomenclature, the field of stripping is dominated by women. Male strippers (think Chippendales) make up less than a third of the professional community.
But let's take a step back (way back) and look at the very beginnings of this sensual subculture. The earliest evidence of exotic dancing can be traced to Paleolithic cave paintings in the south of France, more than 20,000 years ago. Archeologists have uncovered miniature statuettes of exotic dancers near the Black Sea regions of Bulgaria and Romania that date back to the New Stone Age, or Neolithic Era, and are estimated to be over 9000 years old.
Dancing designed to sexually stimulate is thought to have begun as an ancient ritual to gain the favor of the goddesses of fertility and motherhood in hopes of successful reproduction as well as to increase the fertility of crops. Draped in animal fur, women who performed these dances would pose erotically as the furs were slowly removed to reveal the dancer's naked gyrating body.
And, please stop making this about feminists. I consider myself a strong feminist. I have no problem with women who choose to work as strippers or sex workers for that matter. As long as it's a choice and not something that the woman has been forced into doing, it's fine by me. I have a friend who worked as a stripper when she was young. Unfortunately, stripping doesn't give women a long career, as most men want to see a younger woman strip. But I digress.
You are making a big fuss over one company's policy to no longer pay their employees to take clients to strip shows. Who cares? It's so trivial. You're getting yourself so worked up over this that you felt the need to start a thread and actually use the phrase, "feminism ruins everything", says a lot about you. First of all you assume that feminists are behind this policy change. Then, you assume that all feminists want to ban stripping and other sex work. Well guess what Derec? Feminists don't always agree with each other. Some feminists do want to ban all sex work, ( like that's ever going to happen ) but lots of us only want sex work to be safer. We want women who choose this type of work to be respected, to be well compensated and to be sure that it's a choice. So for fuck sakes, stop blaming your personal problems on feminists. Stop stereotyping us. Look, I have a lot of respect for Gloria Steinem, as she was a strong influence on many things that improved the lives of women during the time I was a very young adult. But, I don't agree with her on everything, just because we both consider ourselves feminists.
One corporation's policy doesn't reflect how feminists feel. For all you know, the underlying motive for this policy change was to save money. It's absolutely nuts that this bothers you so much.