Jimmy Higgins
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The reality is that Loren refuses to accept what I said is true. I don't know why he so freely makes accusations of anti-Semitism.
Bullshit. Stop spreading conspiracy theory nonsense.Oh, starvation has been the leading cause of death for many many years. It's just that we don't care about it unless it happens to Gazians[sic]. 10,000 children die per day due to starvation:
Oh my. Sarcasm about starving Gazans?
One difference is that Gazans are being DELIBERATELY starved. Do you support that Netanyahu policy?
Because it is anti-semitism?The reality is that Loren refuses to accept what I said is true. I don't know why he so freely makes accusations of anti-Semitism.
Opposing Netanyahu and his war in Gaza is now redefined as anti-Semitism? How very convenient for the supporters of the Gaza genocide.Because it is anti-semitism?The reality is that Loren refuses to accept what I said is true. I don't know why he so freely makes accusations of anti-Semitism.
Nah, it’s because it makes it easier to avoid the difficult task of actually thinking about the situation.Because it is anti-semitism?The reality is that Loren refuses to accept what I said is true. I don't know why he so freely makes accusations of anti-Semitism.
So now Jews in Israel who oppose the war are anti-semitic??? How does that work?Opposing Netanyahu and his war in Gaza is now redefined as anti-Semitism? How very convenient for the supporters of the Gaza genocide.Because it is anti-semitism?The reality is that Loren refuses to accept what I said is true. I don't know why he so freely makes accusations of anti-Semitism.
As Swammerdami pointed out, are those deaths part of a direct policy?Oh, starvation has been the leading cause of death for many many years. It's just that we don't care about it unless it happens to Gazians[sic]. 10,000 children die per day due to starvation:
Oh my. Sarcasm about starving Gazans?
One difference is that Gazans are being DELIBERATELY starved. Do you support that Netanyahu policy?
No, I don't support Netanyahu. I don't think that it's possible to completely wipe out Hamas. However, this is hamas's doing. They are too blame. But people don't care about children starving unless they are gazians. 10,000 starve every day. Where are the posts regarding this?
Moreover, those who are concerned about starvation in the world can send needed resources that will arrive.
Finally, blaming Hamas for the choices made by the gov’t of Israel is sloppy snd biased thinking. Israel has agency on how they prosecute the war. Hamas started this tragedy snd does its best to egg Israel into acting like cold blooded killers of children and othe noncombatants. But Israel need not help Hamas meet its goal.
Bullshit. Stop spreading conspiracy theory nonsense.One difference is that Gazans are being DELIBERATELY starved. Do you support that Netanyahu policy?
Children in Gaza have been dying from starvation-related complications since the Israeli government began using starvation as a weapon of war, a war crime, Human Rights Watch said today. Doctors and families in Gaza described children, as well as pregnant and breastfeeding mothers, suffering from severe malnutrition and dehydration, and hospitals ill-equipped to treat them.
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“The Israeli government’s use of starvation as a weapon of war has proven deadly for children in Gaza,” said Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch. “Israel needs to end this war crime, stop this suffering, and allow humanitarian aid to reach all of Gaza unhindered.”
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International humanitarian law prohibits the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare. The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court provides that intentionally starving civilians by “depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies,” is a war crime.
Since the Hamas-led October 7, 2023, attacks in Israel, the Israeli government has deliberately blocked the delivery of aid, food, and fuel into Gaza, while impeding humanitarian assistance and depriving civilians of the means to survive. Israeli officials ordering or carrying out these actions are committing collective punishment against the civilian population and the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, both of which are war crimes.
Et cetera.The UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food Michael Fakhri has said that the spread of disease and Israel’s “starvation campaign” in Gaza is “killing more people than bombs and bullets”.
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His comments follow his new report to the UN General Assembly last week, in which he detailed how Israel has used starvation in Gaza “with the intent to destroy in whole or in part the Palestinian people”.
“Never in post-war history had a population been made to go hungry so quickly and so completely as was the case for the 2.3 million Palestinians living in Gaza,” Fakhri said.
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It explained that Israel’s destruction of Gaza’s food system, including the poisoning and destruction of agricultural land, and the destruction of ports and fishing vessels served to make the entire population dependent on humanitarian aid.
“In turn, Israel then used humanitarian aid as a political and military weapon to harm and kill the Palestinian people in Gaza,” the report read, referring to the severe restrictions Israel has imposed on humanitarian aid flows to the besieged enclave.
Stop denying the war crimes.Bullshit. Stop spreading conspiracy theory nonsense.
I think there is even less of a chance now that Hamas will agree to peace. Of course, I think that chance has always been epsilon away from zero,As Swammerdami pointed out, are those deaths part of a direct policy?Oh, starvation has been the leading cause of death for many many years. It's just that we don't care about it unless it happens to Gazians[sic]. 10,000 children die per day due to starvation:
Oh my. Sarcasm about starving Gazans?
One difference is that Gazans are being DELIBERATELY starved. Do you support that Netanyahu policy?
No, I don't support Netanyahu. I don't think that it's possible to completely wipe out Hamas. However, this is hamas's doing. They are too blame. But people don't care about children starving unless they are gazians. 10,000 starve every day. Where are the posts regarding this?
Moreover, those who are concerned about starvation in the world can send needed resources that will arrive.
Finally, blaming Hamas for the choices made by the gov’t of Israel is sloppy snd biased thinking. Israel has agency on how they prosecute the war. Hamas started this tragedy snd does its best to egg Israel into acting like cold blooded killers of children and othe noncombatants. But Israel need not help Hamas meet its goal.
Like I said, I'm against Neta's policies. I favor peace. I favor a cease fire that both sides agree to. But clearly, it doesn't appear that Hamas is interested. Maybe there is a chance now that Sinwar is dead...
Almost invariably, yes.As Swammerdami pointed out, are those deaths part of a direct policy?Oh, starvation has been the leading cause of death for many many years. It's just that we don't care about it unless it happens to Gazians[sic]. 10,000 children die per day due to starvation:
Oh my. Sarcasm about starving Gazans?
One difference is that Gazans are being DELIBERATELY starved. Do you support that Netanyahu policy?
No, I don't support Netanyahu. I don't think that it's possible to completely wipe out Hamas. However, this is hamas's doing. They are too blame. But people don't care about children starving unless they are gazians. 10,000 starve every day. Where are the posts regarding this?
It also helps mask the actual anti-Semitism which is, in fact, flourishing disgustingly throughout the world right at the moment. Israel sure as hell isn't helping the situation, but they didn't start the fire either. There is real and deadly anti-Semitism in the US and elsewhere, but conflating any criticism of Netanyahu with antisemitism helps it hide in plain sight. In my country only people on the "Left" want to talk about the deadly anti-Semitism that is and always was always attached to the Alt-Right and the crazier wing of the Christian theocrats. Meanwhile, only people on the "Right" want to talk about the genocidal intent that Wahhabist political-religious movements don't much try to hide. And no one does anything at all to actually, you know, combat anti-Semitism, which is a real and growing problem.Saying or implying that those who oppose Netanyahu’s genocide (it’s not a war — the other side has no army) are anti-Semitic is of course straightforwardly ad hominem, in addition to being a despicable slur. It’s also a wildly successful tactic, used again and again throughout history. Oppose the war in Vietnam? It’s not because you have a good argument, it’s because you’re a Communist yourself, or a Commie sympathizer, or a fellow traveller, or a disgusting hippie.
Hamas may not have an army that fights in uniform and follows the laws of war, but they do have combatants that are organized in units that have commanders. The "Al Qassam Brigades" are organized into five brigades and 30 batallions.Saying or implying that those who oppose Netanyahu’s genocide (it’s not a war — the other side has no army)
Saying that Jews are committing "genocide" for defending themselves from aggression by Hamas, Hezbollah and other puppets of the Tehran regime is anti-Semitic.are anti-Semitic is of course straightforwardly ad hominem, in addition to being a despicable slur.
And yet, a lot of them have been commies and fellow travelers. Just like so many of the Gaza protesters today support Hamas and Hezbollah.It’s also a wildly successful tactic, used again and again throughout history. Oppose the war in Vietnam? It’s not because you have a good argument, it’s because you’re a Communist yourself, or a Commie sympathizer, or a fellow traveller, or a disgusting hippie.
Better analogy would be to accuse the Allies of "genocide" because a lot of German civilians died during WWII. Gaza City is looking no worse than Berlin in May 1945.Oppose Hitler? It’s because you’re a Jew, or a homosexual, or the member of an inferior race, or vermin, or an enemy of the people.
What do you think Bibi should have realistically done? Do you think he should not have waged war on Hamas and Hezbollah even as they keep attacking Israel? Do you think he should have released Palestinian terrorists (including murderers serving life sentences) in exchange for hostages? What bright ideas does pood have that would both be effective and would not be considered "genocide" by Israel-haters?Oppose Netanyahu’s genocide? It’s because … you get the picture.
How much attention is the famine in Sudan receiving? No Jews, no news.Famine is so closely coupled with war that it no longer makes sense to consider it as a separate problem; The only cure (and the invariably effective cure) for famine, is peace.
No one here has said Jews, as in all Jews everywhere, are committing genocide.Hamas may not have an army that fights in uniform and follows the laws of war, but they do have combatants that are organized in units that have commanders. The "Al Qassam Brigades" are organized into five brigades and 30 batallions.Saying or implying that those who oppose Netanyahu’s genocide (it’s not a war — the other side has no army)
Saying that Jews are committing "genocide" for defending themselves from aggression by Hamas, Hezbollah and other puppets of the Tehran regime is anti-Semitic.are anti-Semitic is of course straightforwardly ad hominem, in addition to being a despicable slur.
Do you mean 10,000 Gazan children are dying each day fom starvation or 10,000 world-wide daily?
Oh, starvation has been the leading cause of death for many many years. It's just that we don't care about it unless it happens to Gazians. 10,000 children die per day due to starvation:
IDF destroys an entire village in Lebanon.
Very interesting explosion pattern. Looks almost like a fuse leading up to the big boom. What weapon looks like that? Certainly nothing I'm aware of--a bomb starts with the biggest boom. But it's perfectly reasonable for secondaries. There are some "villages" in Lebanon that are basically nothing but Hezbollah rocket storage--I've never paid attention to names but this certainly seems like it might be an example of such.
Cluster munition.
I am glad you have said that.
And no one here has denied the IDF and the government of Israel should, and indeed must, defend Israel, including waging war against organizations like Hamas that attack its citizens.
Yeah, Hamas takes it and sells it at high prices. Short of complete occupation how do you propose Israel stop it? It's part of how Hamas controls the population.Due to wars, hunger (incl. starvation etc.) is now one of the world's leading causes of death. I'll attach some graphics about the food situation in Gaza.
And why do you think that is in any way a rebuttal to the fact that they do??(I'll bet the pro-genocide Infidels show up and repeat the canard that Hamas is stealing available food. What do I win?)