How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

In other news. Russia banned internet phone calls to regular phones (land and mobile)
You may ask how is that relevant to this Ukraine business? Well, most of these scum calls come from Ukraine where they call russian pensioners, make them send all their money and then make them do shit like setting government shit on fire, blowing up banks and other shit.
To be fair Russia has such call centers too, but they (unsurprisingly) scam people in other countries and do it for money only.
Recently FSB raided few such call centers in Moscow. These places are huge - 500 people from all over the world were scamming their respective countries.
They also plan to ban messenger voice calls too, at least from abroad. Video calls are still OK.

 

[ZiprHead]

Russia-linked cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland ‘was loaded with spying equipment’

<em>Eagle S</em>, the Russia-linked tanker suspected of damaging an underwater electricity cable on Christmas Day, was kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship, which has since...

www.lloydslist.com

Russia seems determined to provoke NATO into war.

You need to work on your Russian.

NATO Vows To Bolster Baltic Presence Amid Suspected Undersea Sabotage

NATO said it would bolster its presence in the Baltic Sea after undersea power lines and Internet cables were damaged by suspected sabotage believed carried out by vessels belonging to Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet.”

www.rferl.org

NATO seems determined to provoke Russia into war.

I'm not understanding this? Russia does something bad to NATO members. NATO responds for its own protection but it's NATO doing the provocation.

How does that work???

 

[Harry Bosch]

Russia-linked cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland ‘was loaded with spying equipment’

<em>Eagle S</em>, the Russia-linked tanker suspected of damaging an underwater electricity cable on Christmas Day, was kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship, which has since...

www.lloydslist.com

Russia seems determined to provoke NATO into war.

You need to work on your Russian.

NATO Vows To Bolster Baltic Presence Amid Suspected Undersea Sabotage

NATO said it would bolster its presence in the Baltic Sea after undersea power lines and Internet cables were damaged by suspected sabotage believed carried out by vessels belonging to Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet.”

www.rferl.org

NATO seems determined to provoke Russia into war.

I'm not understanding this? Russia does something bad to NATO members. NATO responds for its own protection but it's NATO doing the provocation.

How does that work???

I’m hoping that TV was being sarcastic. Almost certain that he was.

 

[barbos]

I cited a lot of papers where Deep State think tanks literally spelled words "Provoke Russia"
You all "crickets" it of course.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Russia-linked cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland ‘was loaded with spying equipment’

<em>Eagle S</em>, the Russia-linked tanker suspected of damaging an underwater electricity cable on Christmas Day, was kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship, which has since...

www.lloydslist.com

Russia seems determined to provoke NATO into war.

You need to work on your Russian.

NATO Vows To Bolster Baltic Presence Amid Suspected Undersea Sabotage

NATO said it would bolster its presence in the Baltic Sea after undersea power lines and Internet cables were damaged by suspected sabotage believed carried out by vessels belonging to Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet.”

www.rferl.org

NATO seems determined to provoke Russia into war.

I'm not understanding this? Russia does something bad to NATO members. NATO responds for its own protection but it's NATO doing the provocation.

How does that work???

I’m hoping that TV was being sarcastic. Almost certain that he was.

I was. Sorry. Maybe I should take it down a notch. I just hate posting from the outset that it is sarcasm.

 

[ZiprHead]

Russia-linked cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland ‘was loaded with spying equipment’

<em>Eagle S</em>, the Russia-linked tanker suspected of damaging an underwater electricity cable on Christmas Day, was kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship, which has since...

www.lloydslist.com

Russia seems determined to provoke NATO into war.

You need to work on your Russian.

NATO Vows To Bolster Baltic Presence Amid Suspected Undersea Sabotage

NATO said it would bolster its presence in the Baltic Sea after undersea power lines and Internet cables were damaged by suspected sabotage believed carried out by vessels belonging to Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet.”

www.rferl.org

NATO seems determined to provoke Russia into war.

I'm not understanding this? Russia does something bad to NATO members. NATO responds for its own protection but it's NATO doing the provocation.

How does that work???

I’m hoping that TV was being sarcastic. Almost certain that he was.

I'm hoping the same but it was far from clear to me.

 

[ZiprHead]

I cited a lot of papers where Deep State think tanks literally spelled words "Provoke Russia"
You all "crickets" it of course.

I don't believe you. You almost never cite anything.

 

[ZiprHead]

Russia-linked cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland ‘was loaded with spying equipment’

<em>Eagle S</em>, the Russia-linked tanker suspected of damaging an underwater electricity cable on Christmas Day, was kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship, which has since...

www.lloydslist.com

Russia seems determined to provoke NATO into war.

You need to work on your Russian.

NATO Vows To Bolster Baltic Presence Amid Suspected Undersea Sabotage

NATO said it would bolster its presence in the Baltic Sea after undersea power lines and Internet cables were damaged by suspected sabotage believed carried out by vessels belonging to Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet.”

www.rferl.org

NATO seems determined to provoke Russia into war.

I'm not understanding this? Russia does something bad to NATO members. NATO responds for its own protection but it's NATO doing the provocation.

How does that work???

I’m hoping that TV was being sarcastic. Almost certain that he was.

I was. Sorry. Maybe I should take it down a notch. I just hate posting from the outset that it is sarcasm.

Cool. My misinterpretation.

 

[SLD]

Russia-linked cable-cutting tanker seized by Finland ‘was loaded with spying equipment’

<em>Eagle S</em>, the Russia-linked tanker suspected of damaging an underwater electricity cable on Christmas Day, was kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship, which has since...

www.lloydslist.com

Russia seems determined to provoke NATO into war.

You need to work on your Russian.

NATO Vows To Bolster Baltic Presence Amid Suspected Undersea Sabotage

NATO said it would bolster its presence in the Baltic Sea after undersea power lines and Internet cables were damaged by suspected sabotage believed carried out by vessels belonging to Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet.”

www.rferl.org

NATO seems determined to provoke Russia into war.

How is a defensive reaction a determination to provoke war? Are you seriously suggesting that NATO should simply allow Russia to attack infrastructure in NATO countries without consequence?

 

[bilby]

I cited a lot of papers where Deep State think tanks literally spelled words "Provoke Russia"
You all "crickets" it of course.

I don't believe you. You almost never cite anything.

Anyone who unironically uses the phrase "Deep State" can be dismissed as a kook instantly.

It saves a lot of pointless effort; Such kooks are utterly impervious to reason, logic, or facts.

 

[barbos]

How is a defensive reaction a determination to provoke war?

There is nothing defensive about NATO expansion in violation of even respective countries wishes, not to mention explicit ignoring of their own promises and other side concerns, NATO is an utterly corrupt and aggressive organization.

 

[barbos]

Anyone who unironically uses the phrase "Deep State" can be dismissed as a kook instantly.

That's exactly what deep state would say.
Deep State is absolutely 100% real thing and Jeffrey Sachs is not a kook. The kooks are the ones who deny Seep State existance.

 

[barbos]

I cited a lot of papers where Deep State think tanks literally spelled words "Provoke Russia"
You all "crickets" it of course.

I don't believe you. You almost never cite anything.

I almost never cite the same thing twice. But I did cite what I said i cited. You ignored it because you had nothing to say.
It's a classical usual suspects tactics.