Is Georgia on your mind?

[Jimmy Higgins]

Lindsey Graham lost his appeal in the Circuit Court to dodge the subpoena in Georgia. Will the SCOTUS consider it?

The SCOTUS has been handing Drumpf the L for a while now.

The cards are in the table and now that the hustle is over, all the loose ends and old blood will be swept away. They were always patsies in the first place for the likes of The Heritage Foundation.

I think we are seeing the ultra-right on the Supreme Court are beholden to corporate and alt-right social interests, not GOP interests and especially not Trump interests.

 

[Toni]

There are some fantastic advantages and benefits granted to NA-owned businesses in GSA bids …

There should not be any racial or ethnic discrimination when it comes to government contracts.

Unless Liz was running a supply business I can’t see any way her claim could benefit her.

She was hired by Harvard as a "woman of color".

No she was NOT.

 

[Derec]

No she was NOT.

The hell she wasn't!

Yes, I know Hahvahd deny it. So what? Of course they are going to deny it. They have been embroiled in a racial preference lawsuit for years (it is on SCOTUS docket right now).

 

[Derec]

Are you still babbling about Elizabeth Warren? Here in the "Georgia" thread??

I was merely responding to Elixir.

You have almost as big a crush on her as you have on AOC.

You are mistaken. Lpetrich is the one with a crush on AOC, but not even he would crush of Fauxachontas.
As far as this thread, I think it was Jarhyn who first mentioned her here, not I.

Ms. Warren was a distinguished and influential law professor before she even entered politics,

What does that have to do with her using her, at best, negligible Indian ancestry for professional benefit?

Even after it's already been explained to you that the "lie" wasn't even a lie: 1/64 Cherokee is 1/64 Cherokee.

That's the upper end of the confidence interval. Lower end is 1/1024.
But even if we take 1/64, do you really think such a low number should entitle somebody to be hired as a "woman of color" when she is in fact whiter than sour cream? Should not 63/64 or 1023/1024 take precedence here?

Sheeezh. Ask one of these women out on a date already! Or ask one of your girlfriends to dress up as AOC or Senator Warren. Leave us out of it.

Huh? Maybe you should request Elixir to do that. I was merely responding to him.

 

[Derec]

Tell it to the NA community.
I never complained about losing a bid to the people who were displace from THEIR land, had THEIR culture destroyed along with their PROPERTY.

Ignoring your sophomoric insult toward me, conquest has been part of human history since there has been human history.
Indian tribes engaged in it enthusiastically themselves, with territories shifting throughout pre-Columbian history of the Americas. Apache have come to the Southwest only shortly before Europeans. So have, by the way, "native" Hawaiians.
So why is conquest only frowned upon when European whites do it? Why should people of European white descent be punished and discriminated against in perpetuity over some conquest from centuries ago that they have not participated in, and in many cases, their ancestors have not either?

 

[bilby]

So why is conquest only frowned upon when European whites do it?

It isn't.

It's frowned upon when "we" do it, not because that's any worse than anyone else doing it, but because that's the situation in which we had the power to do something about it. But didn't.

 

[Derec]

No offense, Derec, but I would bet on AOC's understanding of economics to be more comprehensive and thorough than yours. Or mine.

That would be a mistake. You don't become a socialist by understanding economics.
And she wanted to spend close to $100T over ten years for her Green New Deal, which is not even that green.

And hell, I listen to that crap all the time at home. No, she probably doesn't have the depth of understanding that someone with a Ph.D. in economics usually does but it appears that she did quite well as a student. And Boston U is a good school.

Yes, she has credentials from an expensive school. And btw, she wants us to pay for her student loans.
But did she learn anything actually? When she casually suggests all these expensive plans, you have to ask yourself, does she understand that money does not grow on trees?

Do I always agree with her? Nope. But I respect her and her achievements and her positions on many issues.

Her "achievements" depend solely on the broken system of low-turnout partisan primaries and very safe districts where they'd elect a yellow dog if he had a D after his name.

 

[Derec]

It's frowned upon when "we" do it, not because that's any worse than anyone else doing it, but because that's the situation in which we had the power to do something about it. But didn't.

What power did "we" have to stop something 100s of years ago? And why should people now be discriminated against for something that happened 100s of years ago and besides, was ubiquitous in different human cultures (including Indians) and not something unique to us "evil" Europeans.

 

[Derec]

And polls are based on who responds to pollsters. There are so many pollsters these days that this will produce a very non-random sample. By now I'm hanging up on probably 10/day.

Polls always result in a non-random sample. Big part of polling is to normalize responses to the demographics of the area in question.
It gets more complicated when dealing with "likely voters" rather than "registered voters" or "adults". The latter two are well known, but with the former you have to guess the distribution of voters in the upcoming election.

 

[bilby]

You don't become a socialist by understanding economics

Sure you do.

Whether a person who understands economics becomes a socialist, or a capitalist, or any other kind of "-ist", is dependent upon what they think the economy ought to be for; What the objectives of an economy are, and what priority to give to each of those objectives.

Conservatives have persuaded themselves, and many others, to blindly accept that the objective of an economy is universally agreed and understood, and that the measure of a successful economic and political strategy is in its achieving that objective.

But other objectives are available.

Maximising growth is a fairly good goal; But minimising poverty may reasonably be considered more important, for example. There are dozens of possible objectives people might choose for their economies.

 

[Swammerdami]

There are some fantastic advantages and benefits granted to NA-owned businesses in GSA bids …

There should not be any racial or ethnic discrimination when it comes to government contracts.

Unless Liz was running a supply business I can’t see any way her claim could benefit her.

She was hired by Harvard as a "woman of color".

No she was NOT.

What does any of this have to do with Georgia? Come on folks; don't subject the over-worked IIDB staff to thread splits, etc.

 

[Copernicus]

There are some fantastic advantages and benefits granted to NA-owned businesses in GSA bids …

There should not be any racial or ethnic discrimination when it comes to government contracts.

Unless Liz was running a supply business I can’t see any way her claim could benefit her.

She was hired by Harvard as a "woman of color".

No she was NOT.

What does any of this have to do with Georgia? Come on folks; don't subject the over-worked IIDB staff to thread splits, etc.

The war on thread drift may seem hopeless, but it is what guarantees staff members steady employment and a stable income. You should be grateful.

 

[Toni]

No she was NOT.

The hell she wasn't!

Yes, I know Hahvahd deny it. So what? Of course they are going to deny it. They have been embroiled in a racial preference lawsuit for years (it is on SCOTUS docket right now).

She was NOT hired as a person of color. It was after when they found it convenient to capitalize on her family legend and turn Simone they had already hired into a minority—and a two-fer at that.

 

[Derec]

She was NOT hired as a person of color. It was after when they found it convenient to capitalize on her family legend and turn Simone they had already hired into a minority—and a two-fer at that.

We already went over all this. I know the apologetics, but it does not pass the smell test. Especially since Harvard is known to practice racial preferences and since Warren has claimed to be "American Indian" in her professional life since the 80s.

Now, can we get some juicy new polls or news so we can get back on topic?
Last I've seen is a Landmark Communications poll that has Warnock and Walker even Steven at 46%, but still has Kemp up by 7 percentage points.


P.S.: Who is Simone?

 

[Swammerdami]

We already went over all this. I know the apologetics, but it does not pass the smell test. Especially since Harvard is known to practice racial preferences and since Warren has claimed to be "American Indian" in her professional life since the 80s.

Now, can we get some juicy new polls or news so we can get back on topic?

You're right that this is off-topic and obviously you're going to get the last word here. But first I want to try One.Last.Time to pound a little sense into your head.

Even if we accepted your wrong opinions on this topic, my question to you would be How important is it? If you made a list of "500 topics of American politics circa 2022 worth discussing" where would the Pocahontas scandal rank? If you answer anything other than "#500, the bottom of the list" it can only be because you'd pad your list with "scandals" even stupider than this one.

There are credible allegations that top politicians indulged in sedition or treason. Yet you rant over and over and over and over about the difference between 2% Cherokee blood and 1% Cherokee blood. Get a grip, man.

 

[southernhybrid]

Derec, you live in Georgia and yet you have done quite a job of derailing this thread, which was supposed to be about Georgia politics. Can you take your obsession with Liz to a place where it belongs,, please? Then we can all argue about that in a place where it belongs. Imo, it belongs somewhere in the basement of the board, but I'm not on the staff, so it's not up to me to decide where this nonsense belongs.

 

[southernhybrid]

Lindsey Graham lost his appeal in the Circuit Court to dodge the subpoena in Georgia. Will the SCOTUS consider it?

As awful as SCOTUS has become, I think there's a chance they may deny Linsey his request. I think he might be doing this out of spite. It's like, "I'm Linsdey Graham damnit. Nobody gets to tell me what I have to do."

And, let me add that in Georgia, early voting turnout is breaking records for a midterm election, but we don't know which side that's helping at this point.

 

[Elixir]

It's like, "I'm Linsdey Graham damnit. Nobody gets to tell me what I have to do."

“… unless it’s Donald telling me to suck harder!”

 

[Toni]

She was NOT hired as a person of color. It was after when they found it convenient to capitalize on her family legend and turn Simone they had already hired into a minority—and a two-fer at that.

We already went over all this. I know the apologetics, but it does not pass the smell test. Especially since Harvard is known to practice racial preferences and since Warren has claimed to be "American Indian" in her professional life since the 80s.

Now, can we get some juicy new polls or news so we can get back on topic?
Last I've seen is a Landmark Communications poll that has Warnock and Walker even Steven at 46%, but still has Kemp up by 7 percentage points.


P.S.: Who is Simone?

Spellchecks version of someone

 

[Derec]

P.S.: Who is Simone?

Spellchecks version of someone

I am afraid I am still not getting it.