The reality is mistakes happen. You set the system up to minimize them.
The system was already set up like that. The hospital asked all females if they were pregnant. The change was the result of trans-affirmation policy, not any defects in the previous policy.
How do you know the hospital asked
all females? How do you know the hospital never asked males? What did the hospital do when intersex individuals were about to undergo one of the procedures the law was referring to?
The previous policy, as is the current policy in other NHS Trust hospitals, is to ask females.
I do not know that the hospital always asked all females or that males were never asked, but if there had been some sort of problem with females going unasked I assume that would have been mentioned.
Perhaps that's the problem. You assume the old pre-treatment policies were damn near perfect therefore any change makes things worse, even when the new policy eliminates guesswork and reduces the chance something important might be overlooked.
'Intersex' individuals are still either male or female.
Your arguments are based on the assumption that females were never overlooked, males were never incorrectly identified, and that it's so insulting to males to be treated exactly the same as females that hospital policies must always differentiate between the sexes even when it's more efficient to just ask everyone the same set of questions.
No, my arguments need no such assumptions, and I have specifically corrected you on your last point before. I have never said hospital questions must always differentiate by sex - that is a concoction you have formulated from whole cloth and now have falsely repeated. Please stop it.
You never said hospital questions must
always differentiate by sex but you've been quite vociferous in your objection to hospitals no longer doing so in this instance, and you have been a strident defender of discrimination by sex in other threads.
If there were ever a justification to discriminate by sex, this must surely be the apex case. By definition, no human male has ever been pregnant. There are no four sided triangles.
It isn't a justification to discriminate by sex, though.
The only way to determine a person's sex is through a fairly comprehensive examination, and even then it's going to be difficult in certain cases. OTOH, asking everyone the same questions regardless of sex is simple and easy, and reduces the chance a pregnant individual might be overlooked.
Why go the more difficult route of determining sex before presenting forms to be filled out when one can just treat everyone the same and give them all the same form?
What I get from your posts is that you think it "may be regarded as demeaning or insulting" to males when they are lumped in with females.
Then you have 'gotten' the wrong thing. It can be demeaning or insulting for men to be mistaken for women, unless they are deliberately trying to pass as women.
That's pretty standard sexism and misogyny there.
There is nothing "demeaning" about being mistaken for a woman unless you really do think women are less than men. Otherwise, it's just a case of mistaken identity on a par with mistaking one person with short brown hair for another. And anyway, such mistakes are bound to happen as society moves away from sexist dress codes, sexist ideas about acceptable use of cosmetics and hair styles, and all the other gendered nonsense about appearances.
It "may be regarded as demeaning or insulting" if their appearance isn't enough to cause people to treat them differently if not preferentially.
No. Stop repeating this falsehood. Just stop it. I've corrected you more than once. It can be demeaning and insulting for men to be confused as women especially if the men are not trying to pass as women. I don't know why you can't accept this. It is not about 'preferential' treatment.
The preferential treatment in this case is having a special set of questions asked of men, and only men, because apparently you hate the thought of one single set of questions being asked of everyone if it includes things like "are you pregnant?". You think men will find it insulting and demeaning to be asked the exact same questions women, females, gender non-conforming, non-binary, and intersex individuals are asked.
Men and boys with gynecomastia are teased mercilessly for their condition. The people doing the teasing know their insults are based on the appearance of men who have a feature more typical of women. Similarly, women can be insulted by claiming they look like men.
Championing sexism does nothing for such men except justify the teasing because sexism is what makes it "demeaning" for men to be thought of as having the same characteristics as women.
It "may be regarded as demeaning or insulting" if males are asked the exact same questions as females in a hospital setting as though what's in their pants and chromosomes isn't important.
No. Stop. Stop doing this. Stop manufacturing these falsehoods and pretending I said or implied them.
What exactly is "demeaning or insulting" about being asked if you are or might be pregnant before undergoing a procedure that can be very damaging to a fetus?
I am going to explain once more and then I'm not going to do it again.
Some men might feel very sensitive about being mistaken for women. You've given the impression that you simply
do not care about the feelings of men, but I do. A man being asked if he could be pregnant could be read to mean the person asking that question thinks he looks like a woman. It could also be read to mean the person asking the question isn't paying attention to their job.
I care about their feelings just as much as I care about the feelings of an overweight woman being asked when the baby is due. But I don't see those feelings as a reason to not use a single standard set of questions prior to certain medical procedures that can negatively impact a developing fetus.
No one is asking those questions to be mean or to make someone feel bad about themselves. And no one is being singled out, either. Everyone is treated the same. If there is a lack of respect for some then it's a lack of respect for all, and the lack of respect is the problem with how they are treated, not the sameness.
