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McCarthey out as Speaker of the House - Bozo the clown on deck

Rumors indicate Zombie Ronald Reagan is putting his hat into the ring, with the likely dismissal of Jim Jordan. I'll hide this one.
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I think that Elise Stefanik might take a run at the speakership. She went from moderate NY Republican to full-on MAGA in record time, so she is one of those slimy chameleon-like politicians that will do anything to climb the ladder to power. She nominated Jordan, so she may be able to pull his supporters in along with some of the NY moderates who won't vote for Jordan. She is also a lot smarter than most House Republicans, but that is a low bar. Mainly, she is a viciously partisan politician with a sharp tongue who isn't afraid to lie and contradict herself, and that seems to be exactly what Republicans are looking for these days.
 
Jim Jordan scrambles for votes after 20 GOP defections imperil his speaker bid | CNN Politics
Conservative Republican Rep. Jim Jordan called off a second speaker’s vote Tuesday evening while he scrambled behind the scenes to try to win over 20 Republicans who voted against him earlier in the day.
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They are trying again tomorrow.
The level of GOP opposition to Jordan during Tuesday’s speaker’s vote – held exactly two weeks after the House ousted Kevin McCarthy – was a disappointment for Jordan’s allies who had expressed hopes that the number of holdouts would only be in the single digits.
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These are the 20 Republicans who voted against Jim Jordan for speaker | CNN Politics
1. Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska voted for former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy
2. Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer of Oregon voted for McCarthy
3. Rep. Anthony D’Esposito of New York voted for former Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York
4. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida voted for Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana
5. Rep. Jake Ellzey of Texas voted for Rep. Mike Garcia of California
6. Rep. Andrew Garbarino of New York voted for Zeldin
7. Rep. Carlos Gimenez of Florida voted for McCarthy
8. Rep. Tony Gonzales of Texas voted for Scalise
9. Rep. Kay Granger of Texas voted for Scalise
10. Rep. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania voted for Scalise
11. Rep. Jennifer Kiggans of Virginia voted for McCarthy
12. Rep. Nick LaLota of New York voted for Zeldin
13. Rep. Mike Lawler of New York voted for McCarthy
14. Rep. John Rutherford of Florida voted for Scalise
15. Rep. Mike Simpson of Idaho voted for Scalise
16. Rep. Steve Womack of Arkansas voted for Scalise
17. Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado voted for Rep. Tom Emmer of Minnesota
18. Rep. John James of Michigan voted for Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma
19. Rep. Doug LaMalfa of California voted for McCarthy
20. Rep. Victoria Spartz of Indiana voted for Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky

Seems like MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, and like-minded R's all voted for Jim Jordan.
 
Two weeks ago,
Greene says Trump the only candidate for Speaker she is supporting | The Hill - 10/04/23 8:53 AM ET
noting
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 on X: "The only candidate for Speaker I am currently supporting is President Donald J. Trump. …" / X
The only candidate for Speaker I am currently supporting is President Donald J. Trump.

He will end the war in Ukraine.

He will secure the border.

He will end the politically weaponized government.

He will make America energy independent again.

He will pass my bill to stop transgender surgeries on kids and keep men out of women’s sports.

He will support our military and police.

And so much more!

He has a proven 4 year record as President of the United States of America.

He received a record number of Republican votes of any Republican Presidential candidate!

We can make him Speaker and then elect him President!

He will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!! 🇺🇸
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Howz he gonna do all that as a non voting speaker of the house???

Damn that woman is a moron!
 
House GOP go 1-17 on being able to elect a Speaker.

It was possible for it to go any which of a number of ways, gain support, lose support, win the Speakership. It would be lose support for the outcome, with more people voting for alternatives than the first time. The GOP will now being looking at that dumpster fire as a consensus pick to get support of the entire GOP conference.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
House GOP members are suggesting empowering McHenry with more power, so they can at least fail to pass legislation while also failing to name a Speaker.
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Whatever would we do without their helpful suggestions?
I still can’t believe the fast talking insurrectionist liar got as many votes as he did. The GOP deserves to die - but it would be nice if they didn’t take the rest of us with them.
 
Boehner got a vote this time.
 
The first vote
Roll Call 521
Oct 17, 2023, 01:49 PM | 118th Congress, 1st Session
Jeffries: 212, Jordan: 200, Scalise: 7, McCarthy: 6, Zeldin: 3, Garcia, Mike: 1, Emmer: 1, Cole: 1, Massie: 1, Present: 0, Not Voting: 1
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Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives - Vote Details
Roll Call 523
Oct 18, 2023, 01:12 PM | 118th Congress, 1st Session
Jeffries: 212, Jordan: 199, Scalise: 7, McCarthy: 5, Zeldin: 3, Donalds: 1, Emmer: 1, Garcia, Mike: 1, Boehner: 1, Granger: 1, Westerman: 1, Miller, Candice: 1, Present: 0, Not Voting: 0

 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election now has
Both articles have tables of which alternative candidates that the voters for them voted for. Those who voted for different ones usually voted for JJ either the first or the second time.
 
I don't know how any Republican could be watching this clown show without wincing. But then, maybe that's why they all pretend not to be Republicans these days.
 
The 22 Republicans voting against Jim Jordan for House speaker - Washington Post - "There’s little that unites the 22 House Republicans who voted against Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) for speaker on Wednesday."
  • 6 hail from districts Biden won in 2020
  • 7 might be put off by Jordan’s approach to spending -- JJ is confrontational rather than institutional
  • 8 belong to a bipartisan group of moderates -- the Problem Solvers Caucus
  • 5 belong to Republicans’ ‘governing wing’ -- the Republican Governance Group
  • Just 4 opposed certifying the 2020 election
The PSC and the RGG are two of the R's "five families", with the other three being the Republican Main Street Caucus, the Republican Study Committee and the Freedom Caucus. A R can belong to more than one of them.


Why the GOP Can’t Unite - POLITICO
There’s a reason why House Republicans can’t settle on a speaker.

It’s the same reason there are effectively parallel GOP presidential primaries. One is between a series of candidates embarked on all the usual rituals vying for support from about half the party’s voters, while the other half has long ago made up its mind about who its preferred nominee is. His name may ring a bell.

There is no longer a cohesive Republican Party. There’s a pre-Trump GOP and a post-Trump GOP, living together uneasily. They may be roommates but they’re not married.
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Under proportional representation, these would be two separate parties.
No one in our conference wants to see any type of coalition government with Democrats,” Jordan told reporters after the first vote Tuesday.

Yet that’s precisely what his own conference has become — a would-be coalition government, if under the same banner. The fitful and still fruitless negotiations that have taken place since Kevin McCarthy’s ouster two weeks ago are closer to a European-style coalition-led parliament struggling to be born than a factional dispute within an American party.
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Then
However, if we’re being honest, in the House, and the GOP writ large, increasingly it’s Jordan who’s the body and the pre-Trump Republicans the virus.

The Senate, of course, is the holdout. Blessed with six-year terms and safe seats — and the courage both infuse — Senate Republicans overall still reflect the pre-Trump party. That’s evident in their presidential preference (anybody but Trump), in their support for Ukraine aid and in their willingness to stand with a leader who disdains Trump as much as he supports Kyiv.
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As Jordan wobbles, House GOP eyes potential next speaker candidates - Live Updates - POLITICO - "Plenty of alternatives are in the mix. But no one will make public moves until the Ohio Republican ends his flagging candidacy."
 
Of course McCarthy was hosed by a tiny radical faction, where as Jordan is being held out by a bipartisan group of Republicans. Jordan is actually the best representative of the 2023 GOP. Sadly, the GOP is not having an epiphany over his Speakership bid. Mainly because the GOP stopped caring about governing around the time of Gingrich. And completely face up around Obama.
 
Jordan has been using threats and bullying tactics to get votes for Speaker. That seems to be backfiring as angry Republicans are telling him that has lost him their support. Third round of voting should be lots of fun for Jimbo.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
Jordan has been using threats and bullying tactics to get votes for Speaker. That seems to be backfiring as angry Republicans are telling him that has lost him their support. Third round of voting should be lots of fun for Jimbo.
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Gym needs to learn how to make them an offer they can’t refuse, WITHOUT saying the quiet part out loud. Poor stupid lying insurrectionist …
 
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