SLD
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Less. Likely less than 10%
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Only 51% Republicans Voted For Trump in Iowa
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barbos
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No worry then? Trump will lose to Biden?
Copernicus
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The Iowa caucuses were only open to registered Republicans, and only 19% of those even cast a ballot. Generally speaking, the public doesn't like caucuses, which are designed to make pitches for money and volunteers to support the state party organization. Spending hours listening to speeches and arguing over party positions isn't everyone's idea of a fun way to spend the day, especially in the dead of winter. Primaries are more popular.
It's hard to interpret how a primary might have turned out. In Washington state, we went from party-controlled caucuses to general primaries, but there was a transition period where we were doing both. Initially, the primaries were only so-called "beauty contests" and the caucus system chose actual candidates. The fact is that caucus results and primary results sometimes ended up with the two systems picking different candidates--e.g. Hillary Clinton by caucus, but Bernie Sanders by primary. I don't know whether Trump would have fared better or worse in an Iowa primary.
SLD
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yeah. Exactly. I’m not saying that they will, or can, rig the elections. But they will cheat. They will plant false stories and magnify the shit out of them. They will harass minority voters and threaten them with prosecution for illegal voting. They’ll try to block access to voting booths in minority communities. Call in fake bomb threats or some shit. There may be a lot of outright violence come Election Day. And the Dems are not prepared.
unapologetic
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It hurts my brain trying to decide who I'd vote for. (or against) Not voting would be just as painful.
Which is the only reason I voted for Biden in 2020.
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Are you yanks allowed to vote in nicer weather?
If you know the history of why it is on the first Tuesday in November you would really know how dumb our election system is.
Jason Harvestdancer
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The differences between Nikki Haley and Hillary Clinton come down to one of them being younger than the other, and that's about it. The GOP of today is not the neocon warmonger GOP of Bush, Cheney, McCain, etc. For better or worse, Trump refocused the GOP away from foreign policy onto domestic populism.
She's running the platform of the old guard of the GOP. Also, it is suspected that a lot of her support came from outside the GOP so that she could be a controlled opposition candidate. The county she did best in is the most Democrat of all the counties in Iowa.
Those who want to sour grapes her loss will say it is about gender. Then again, Haley also ran on being a woman, a lot like Clinton did.
Copernicus
Industrial Grade Linguist
But Clinton was nominated by the Democrats in 2016. She won the popular vote in the general election, too. Still, gender is an issue in elections. Male candidates have a systemic advantage. It just may not be enough of an advantage to always give them a win. Had she been a male candidate, her popular margin of victory would likely have been higher and possibly even decisive in the electoral count.
Jason Harvestdancer
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True, that's another difference. Nikki Haley wasn't the 2016 Democratic Party Nominee, so she has nothing in common with Hillary Clinton.
Well that is complete horseshit, Mr Totally-not-a-Republican-or-Trump-supporter;
Assassination of Qasem Soleimani
Trump Drops the Mother of All Bombs on Afghanistan
America’s biggest non-nuclear bomb was used on one of the smallest militias in the world. That decision revealed the Trump Administration’s revised chain of command.
Defying Congress, Trump sets $8 billion-plus in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia, UAE
Trump muses about a really bad — and evidently illegal — idea to bomb Russia using Chinese flags
Trump Wanted to Fire Missiles at Mexico.
Trump Threatens ‘Fire and Fury’ Against North Korea if It Endangers U.S.
And that was just off the top of my head. I'm sure if I was really interested I would find out how many times Trump ordered attacks into Yemen, military actions in Africa, taking credit for all the military aid sent to Ukraine (something you were against but for some reason never criticised Trump when he made that claim), but considering you believe Trump is not a warmonger kinda says it all. In fact the only critique I could find from you doing the Trump Administration was this thread you started that was about US aircraft shooting down Syrian planes where you said:
Kinda shows where you have your blinders.
Elixir
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I think most Imnotatrumpsuckers are fairly well aware that Trump is a criminal scumbag seeking office to keep himself out of jail. He is not kidding about arresting/executing political opponents and critics, and it’s possible that some Imnotatrumpsuckers know it, but they have a more of a need to attack leftists than a desire to live in a democracy. Because the prospect of turning over the country to Cheato scares the fuck out of rational people, he becomes a useful tool.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Primary focus isn't on foreign policy != No focus at all in any way on any aspect of foreign policy.
Try again.
Try again.
SLD
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So now DeSantis has dropped out of the race and endorsed tRump. Looking at the polls, the son of a bitch will cruise to the nomination. Halley can’t even close her home state of South Carolina. Utterly fucking pathetic.
Our only hope is a massive coronary. Might happen with Melania’s help.
Our only hope is a massive coronary. Might happen with Melania’s help.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Congratulations on your team's victory in Iowa.
Way to gloss over the "Trump isn't a warmonger" inconsistency there.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Well compared to Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden ...
Once again showing your blinders. Biden got the US out of Afghanistan and dialled back the drone program to a fraction of what it once was. Yet he is the warmonger and the guy who threatens countries in all caps because his feelings were hurt isn't. Give me a fucking break. You're not fooling anyone. Trump is literally the only President who would be willing to plunge the US into war on a whim and you will never stop apologising for his foreign policy. Spare me.
laughing dog
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I wonder which US president has not been a “warmonger”.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Yes, Biden did follow through with a pre-existing plan to get the US out of Afghanistan. Except he changed the end date, incurring the wrath of the local population, and turning the withdraw into a disaster. Now who originally arranged the exit from Afghanistan?
We heard it all in 2016, that Trump was going to start WWIII, which Biden is currently doing. Bush, Obama, and Biden have already plunged the US into war on whims. Trump has a lot of problems, but on foreign policy he is definitely not one of the neocon hawks both parties support.