Artemus
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Many of the counts can be multiple counts of the same basic charge. Like maybe all the different installment payments he made to Cohen.
Good point. Time to just wait and see. (I'm like a kid before Christmas right now. )
Many of the counts can be multiple counts of the same basic charge. Like maybe all the different installment payments he made to Cohen.
I predict he will get quite ill right before the trial.If this gets into a courtroom and Orange Face has to sit during proceedings he will have to be drugged. No way Orange Blowhole can just sit and take things in without being medicated. If a trial occurs I hope cameras are allowed.
Trump is American, and thinks that Trump should be president. By your reasoning, Americans think Trump should be president.I'm a European and I'm that "stupid". So, yes, we are.Come on now, Europeans aren't that stupid.From a European perspective I think this "scandal" reads like this. Trump is awesome and fucks porn stars. Democrats are pathetic moralists who can't deal with a guy enjoying life a little.
Of all the crimes Trump has committed, it is rather pathetic that the Stormy Daniels payoff is the one that someone finally has the courage to charge him with. Hopefully this will open the floodgates on everything else.
With 30 or so counts against him, the Daniels payoff may be the least significant part of the indictment, assuming that it is included at all. I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised.
You're missing the whole point.
From a European perspective I think this "scandal" reads like this. Trump is awesome and fucks porn stars. Democrats are pathetic moralists who can't deal with a guy enjoying life a little.
This entire indictment makes USA look bad.
Then obviously you don’t actually understand what is going on and you reason like a horny 15 year old.Not if the money was an effective donation to the Trump campaign, but not declared as a donation under electoral laws, it's not.I understand that Trump has been accused of paying hush money to Stormy Daniels. What I don't understand is what law has been allegedly broken?
Nor if it was fraudulently entered in any accounts to avoid paying relevant taxes.
Ok. So it's complete bullshit. So I'm assuming Trump will come out of this stronger?
In the Swedish language does "criminal but difficult to prove" translate as "complete bullshit"? I thought Google Translate was better than that.
Anyway, I see that T**** has been indicted on "more than 30" criminal charges. That suggests that they've gone beyond the illegal hush-slush accounting.
I'm not sure what outcome to hope for. This prosecution may STRENGTHEN Trump, but is that a bad thing? The GOP will nominate either Mephistopheles or Trump in 2024. Electing either would be disastrous for the USA, but the stupider, more disgusting candidate will be easier to defeat in November.
From a European perspective I think this "scandal" reads like this. Trump is awesome and fucks porn stars. Democrats are pathetic moralists who can't deal with a guy enjoying life a little.
This entire indictment makes USA look bad.
It's true. The Left are the last people to balk at a sex worker's line of work. Clinton was impeached for waaay less by rabid Republicans who's goal it was to amplify every last detail about a blowjob to humiliate him.Then obviously you don’t actually understand what is going on and you reason like a horny 15 year old.Not if the money was an effective donation to the Trump campaign, but not declared as a donation under electoral laws, it's not.I understand that Trump has been accused of paying hush money to Stormy Daniels. What I don't understand is what law has been allegedly broken?
Nor if it was fraudulently entered in any accounts to avoid paying relevant taxes.
Ok. So it's complete bullshit. So I'm assuming Trump will come out of this stronger?
In the Swedish language does "criminal but difficult to prove" translate as "complete bullshit"? I thought Google Translate was better than that.
Anyway, I see that T**** has been indicted on "more than 30" criminal charges. That suggests that they've gone beyond the illegal hush-slush accounting.
I'm not sure what outcome to hope for. This prosecution may STRENGTHEN Trump, but is that a bad thing? The GOP will nominate either Mephistopheles or Trump in 2024. Electing either would be disastrous for the USA, but the stupider, more disgusting candidate will be easier to defeat in November.
From a European perspective I think this "scandal" reads like this. Trump is awesome and fucks porn stars. Democrats are pathetic moralists who can't deal with a guy enjoying life a little.
This entire indictment makes USA look bad.
Nobody cares about the sex with paid professionals. The right wingers who claim moral high ground are right there with you: Fucking sex workers is awesome but we do t really talk about it in public.
Which is why Trump paid at least 2 women hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep quiet about it. Except he didn’t just pay them not to talk about the sex. He seems to have engaged in various go betweens and shell corporations in an effort to hide what he was doing. And In doing so, he seems to have violated tax laws and election finance laws.
Trump has spent his life acting as an amoral sociopathic mob boss without anything resembling actual cajones. He’s played serial shell games with money and lied, cheated and defrauded with such regularity that it is like breathing to him.
Nobody actually cares who he has sex with, so long as it is another consenting adult. Shit, if he just said he was going through a rough patch in his marriage, almost everybody would have shrugged their shoulders.
But Trump honestly does t understand that rules and laws apply to him, especially when running for or holding a high public office. When you are POTUS, you don’t get a pass for your dirty laundry—you get a lot of extra scrutiny. Special laws apply to you—like not accepting personal gifts.
What made the US look bad was electing an obviously incompetent sociopath. What would make the US look worse is by not applying the rule of law to the highest elected (former) official in the country.
Pecker & Cheato. That would be a great name for a cop buddy movie (speaking of popcorn...)[puts down popcorn]
I strongly suspect that there is catch-and-kill conspiracy charge buried in there somewhere.
They called Pecker back to testify (he got immunity during the Cohen trial) then indicted Cheato the next day …
[resumes popcorn]