Why the GOP is obsessed with "woke" — but can't define it

[Elixir]

Next wokester does typo'ed message "maybe more should of listened!”

Am I getting this right?
“Woke” actually means Qrazy? Or is it only that Qrazy think they’re woke?

 

[Oleg]

The Khmer Rouge championed workers' rights, accessible banking, and financial support for the elderly?

Isn't it funny how evil people mask their intentions with flowery phrases? Social Justice! Gender-Affriming Care! Resettlement in the East!

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Next wokester does typo'ed message "maybe more should of listened!”

Am I getting this right?
“Woke” actually means Qrazy? Or is it only that Qrazy think they’re woke?

Woke means socially and politically aware and perhaps also acting in some way to spread that awareness or fix things. Qrazies do think they are aware, but they use alt facts, tons and tons of them. So, while they would hate the moniker "woke," they actually fit the definition.

 

[Oleg]

Woke means socially and politically aware and perhaps also acting in some way to spread that awareness or fix things.

Every political philosophy/movement/ideology claims that definition.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Woke means socially and politically aware and perhaps also acting in some way to spread that awareness or fix things.

Every political philosophy/movement/ideology claims that definition.

Welcome to the thread.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Khmer Rouge championed workers' rights, accessible banking, and financial support for the elderly?

Isn't it funny how evil people mask their intentions with flowery phrases? Social Justice! Gender-Affriming Care! Resettlement in the East!

So, that is a no then?

 

[Politesse]

Woke means socially and politically aware and perhaps also acting in some way to spread that awareness or fix things.

Every political philosophy/movement/ideology claims that definition.

My god, you're actually close to getting the point finally...

 

[TomC]

Woke means socially and politically aware and perhaps also acting in some way to spread that awareness or fix things.

Every political philosophy/movement/ideology claims that definition.

My god, you're actually close to getting the point finally...

May I presume that you are using the plural "you" in that sentence?

Maybe it will help explain why I see BLM and the TeaParty as similar? Why I see Ilhan Omar and Margorie Taylor Greene as having more in common with each other than either does with me?

Tom

 

[Oleg]

Woke means socially and politically aware and perhaps also acting in some way to spread that awareness or fix things.

Every political philosophy/movement/ideology claims that definition.

My god, you're actually close to getting the point finally...

Yes, every political ideology claims to be on the side of good. So ignore the flowery language and judge them by their actions.

 

[Oleg]

Maybe it will help explain why I see BLM and the TeaParty as similar? Why I see Ilhan Omar and Margorie Taylor Greene as having more in common with each other than either does with me?

I am a firm believer in horseshoe theory.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Maybe it will help explain why I see BLM and the TeaParty as similar? Why I see Ilhan Omar and Margorie Taylor Greene as having more in common with each other than either does with me?

I am a firm believer in horseshoe theory.

I thought you just liked to post propaganda, misleading social media posts, and sometimes stuff that is entirely untrue.

 

[Oleg]

Maybe it will help explain why I see BLM and the TeaParty as similar? Why I see Ilhan Omar and Margorie Taylor Greene as having more in common with each other than either does with me?

I am a firm believer in horseshoe theory.

I thought you just liked to post propaganda, misleading social media posts, and sometimes stuff that is entirely untrue.

Still smarting over that meme, are ya?

 

[TomC]

Maybe it will help explain why I see BLM and the TeaParty as similar? Why I see Ilhan Omar and Margorie Taylor Greene as having more in common with each other than either does with me?

I am a firm believer in horseshoe theory.

I thought you just liked to post propaganda, misleading social media posts, and sometimes stuff that is entirely untrue.

I definitely see that horseshoe theory in action on IIDB.
Tom

 

[Playball40]

What is this “Wokeness” that you speak of?

Lots of industries are built on racism.

 

[Playball40]

"Woke" is now an empty word that means whatever MAGA wants it to mean

MAGA can't explain what "woke" is, but that's the point — it's a "choose your own bigotry" term for Republicans

www.salon.com

"Woke" is currently the favorite word of the right. Republican politicians can't go more that 5 or 6 words without peppering "woke" into their sentences. Turning on Fox News, you'll hear the word "woke" repeated ad nauseam, like a record skipping, but for hours at a time: "woke woke woke woke woke." Everything is "woke": Banks. Children's books. The military. Disney. M&Ms. Super Bowl performances. To be a Republican in the year 2023 is to spend every waking moment outraged and terrified by "woke," certain its wokey tendrils will snake their wokeness into your brain and woke-ify you into wokeitude.

But the funny thing about "woke" is that, while all Republicans hate it, they don't seem to have any idea how to define it. That was hilariously demonstrated in a viral video clip of conservative author Bethany Mandel falling completely apart when asked in an interview to define "woke," a concept she wrote an entire book denouncing. Mandel couldn't do it.

"So, I mean, woke is sort of the idea that, um..." she stammered before admitting it "is something that's very hard to define," and then failing utterly to get close.

Mind you, Mandel was not being cornered by some progressive journalist. She was on a reactionary show with two sympathetic hosts who bent over backward to give Mandel room to explain what "woke" meant, coaxing her gently with, "take your time." Yet she still couldn't define "woke."

I'll give it a go. Today "woke" means leftist extreme intolerance. It's enforced understanding of the needs of perceived minorities. It's using social pressure to force people to be informed about the needs of marginalised groups, be compassionate toward them, thoughtful and kind. Or rather, that you virtue signal all of this. You don't need to actually care about marginalised groups. You just need to make it look like you do. It's fundamentally patronising, since woke is a stance majority group members take, so they can use minorities as an ideological bat to beat other majority member group members with. Because minorities are assumed not being able to speak for themselves.

I think woke is the biggest threat to progressivism and liberal values today. It replaces true progress the bullshit symbols of progress. It leads to newspeak. It makes honesty into a sin.

It's the latest incarnation of ideological purity, scapegoating and mob mentality that we, so lovingly, inherited by, the loving, and caring Christians, who totally care about the poor, weak and unfortunate. Yes, the pope totally needs a gold throne. It's important for his work toward humilty.

Die die Christian culture. Just fucking die already. I'm so sick of it.

That's my take on it.

No, I don't think the conservatives are the good guys. I see the wokes as the leftist versions of fundamentalists. It's the exact same kind of, horrible, behaviour. Both are a result of our shared Christian heritage.

But your interpretation clashes with the current conservative meaning. For example, your interpretation contradicts the current narrative from the right in the USA that the recent bank failures are due to "Woke" banking.

"Woke" has replaced "political correctness" as the approved mode of virtue signalling from the right in the USA.

Woke and pc is the same thing.

Yes, conservatives are great at using the current "bad liberal word" as a magical ju-ju fetish dog whistle. It's a bizarre behaviour. I'm not conservative. They can all go and get fucked as far as I am concerned.

But I do defend the rights of conservatives to be conservative. I think they should be allowed to express all their bigotted and narrow minded opinions freely. Its a hill I am willing to die on.

When conservatives cross the boundry from conservatism to reactionary authoritarianists, destroying the rights of non-MAGAts, I draw the line.

Ok, then. But I hope you understand if people like me see you as a threat to democracy and western civilization?

Tolerance, isn't just a pretty word. It actually means something. It's fundamental to making democracy work.

I hope you understand why I group you together with those who stormed the capitol as the same type of people? People who are a threat to democracy are just as bad, regardless if they're on the right or left.

I do not believe you understand the definition of 'tolerance'.

 

[bilby]

Do I have to capitalize Ewok?

Only if you don't want to be accused of marginalising and being culturally insensitive towards alien species.

 

[TSwizzle]

OMG!!!111!!!111!! GOP is obsessing about woke!!!

150+ posts from IIDB obsessing about woke.



I love the smell of irony in the morning.

 

[bilby]

150+ posts from IIDB obsessing about

Are you kidding? 150 posts on IIDB is basically us ignoring a topic.

There were more posts than that in the Electric Vehicles derail from the discussion about Musk buying Twitter.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Do I have to capitalize Ewok?

Only if you don't want to be accused of marginalising and being culturally insensitive towards alien species.

Don't give me this liberal BS about the Ewoks. They were a warring species seeking the annihlation of other species on their planet. Any other reason that'd explain why they were armed to the teeth with weapons and had catapults.

The Jedi won, but the other species on the planet was exterminated by those monsters!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

OMG!!!111!!!111!! GOP is obsessing about woke!!!

150+ posts from IIDB obsessing about woke.



I love the smell of irony in the morning.

Not obsessed, obsessed but can't tell us what Woke is. Kind of like how Trump supporters couldn't explain why they supported Trump.