Split Trump was a good president (split from: As a politician how can I serve everyone)

[Cheerful Charlie]

There are so many other areas that I am fine with that I want to accomplish Immigration, Borders, Deportation, Climate Change, Healthcare, Illegal Immigration etc. There are literally these areas and like I said 32 others that I am completely fine with in politics that I want to achieve.

I wasn't sure whether this fit better here or in the "Trump is a good President" thread. But he has a lot to do with the current immigration disaster.

So I'll just ask. What policies do you think Trump did well with(concerning immigration) and what would you do, similarly or differently?
Tom

Trump did well with the Border Wall and all of the deportations that were happening in the country.

I would do some of the same things he did. If it was me though I would enact the largest deportation in American history for undocumented immigrants. I also would expand troops at the southern border. Also, I would bring back catch and deport.

I would keep building the wall as well.

Trump's border wall was easily defeated by any coyote with a battery powered Sawsall. Or a rope. Some private wall constructures were so shoddy, they fell over soon after they were erected.

 

[steve_bank]

What policies do you think Trump did well with(concerning immigration)

Not just immigration!
"Immigration, Borders, Deportation ... Illegal Immigration etc."

Of the six things Buzz mentioned, four of them are the same thing.
But he seems to have forgotten all about the gender stuff, trans stuff, gay people and sexual preferences stuff that he was preoccupied with elsewhere. Not exactly a demonstration of the laser focus he intends to bring to high office.

No I did remember all of those things to.

What exactly is your platform?

Economics
Abortion
Gay rights
Immigration
Foreign Policy
Energy

Are you a high school or college student? Have you graduated college?

Wrong thread.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Trump's border wall was easily defeated by any coyote with a battery powered Sawsall. Or a rope. Some private wall constructures were so shoddy, they fell over soon after they were erected.

Yup. I have tools in the garage that would probably defeat it. Battery powered.

The shipping crate walls would be trivial to defeat. People keep obsessing about those stupid things but for the most part they're thin sheet metal you could cut with hand tools. The bottoms are strong and the corner posts are strong, that's it. The rest of it is not load bearing and is simply a weather seal.

 

[Patooka]

Trump did well with the Border Wall and all of the deportations that were happening in the country.

I would do some of the same things he did. If it was me though I would enact the largest deportation in American history for undocumented immigrants. I also would expand troops at the southern border. Also, I would bring back catch and deport.

I would keep building the wall as well.

Trump's border wall was easily defeated by any coyote with a battery powered Sawsall. Or a rope. Some private wall constructures were so shoddy, they fell over soon after they were erected.

What about "boarders" though?

 

[bilby]

The shipping crate walls would be trivial to defeat. People keep obsessing about those stupid things but for the most part they're thin sheet metal you could cut with hand tools.

Are you talking about shipping containers?

A standard shipping container has walls made of 14 gauge corten steel - that's over 1.9mm thick. You're not cutting that with hand tools unless you have arms like Popeye the Sailor.

 

[NightHawkBuzz]

So, to sum up:

Xenophobia issues (duplicates in the original)

• Immigration,
• Borders,
• Deportation Illegal Immigration etc.
• Immigration,
• Border Security,
• Deportation,
• border troops,
• catch and deport
• ICE
• English is our National Language.

Transphobia issues

• Gender Affirming Care,
• Trans athletes in sports,
• Pronouns

Climate Change,
Economy,
Abortion,
Space,

Is it safe to assume that your stance on climate change, economy, and abortion are oppressive positions?
Or are you advocating for a women’s choice on what to do with her own body, like you have with your own body?
Or are you advocating that the economy needs a robust middle class and therefore corporations should not be allowed to steal from them?

And what is it you want to do to space? Limit it to rich white men?

Are you gonna respond to my other comments I gave you. I wanted to see what you were gonna say in response to it.

 

[steve_bank]

Trump's administration was a disaster. From the reporting on his business ventures and what I saw in tech companies I knew he would never be able to put together a functioning administration.

I knew because I saw people like him. By the late 90s his personality type was weeded out. Autocrat never taking responsibility for failures. Abusive.

His wall was not built. What he claimed as his wall was actually funded by Obama as maintnce amd minor expansion. In a phone call he asked the president of Mexico for polical cover on immigration. Pathetic for a president of the USA.

He claimed tax breaks for the wealthy would reduce the deficit, it increased the deficit.

He claimed tariffs on China went directly to our treasury, ridiculous.

He was on the edge of bankruptcy. He stared a venture that peuple bout shares in on his reporting and image. It failed, he walked away with money, and left regular people who beloved in him screwed. That is is shtick.

His casino failed. He had no clue as to how to manage a casino. He stiffed suppliers and contractors. He blamed the failure on one of his staff.

Trump is incompetent.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Never forget that this guy said that "even the Constitution" might have to be set aside to settle his grievance over supposedly being cheated out of his election win three years ago. Ummm...wasn't protecting the Constitution the main proposition in some oath or other, that he once took? This alone makes him the worst of the 46.
Also, in the Dumb as a Fuckin' Ox Department, there's Yo! Semite! (the famous American park), the airports being attacked during the American Revolution, and the multitude of misspelled words in his stupid tweets -- these include Melania (didn't he call her Melanie or something) -- and these classic Donaldisms:
hearby
boarder security (well, you don't want Donald renting your guest room)
smocking gun
unpresidented (a fate I hope he's stuck with)
it played no roll...
Scott Free (apparently someone Trump knows)
and.... drum roll...the alpha and omega of this unschooled septuagenarian toddler's misspellings: HAMBERDERS.

 

[Ford]

So, according to ABC News, this "good President" discussed sensitive nuclear secrets with an Australian billionaire who shared the info with "scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter."

According to Pratt's account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

That last bit is the "holy fucking shit, he did not actually SAY that?" part. That's the sort of information that a sailor actually serving on one of these subs would not be able to share with anyone...even if they had the info.

Our adversaries would normally have to find someone with this intelligence, court them over the course of months or longer, and Trump just handed it out like candy. Again...holy fucking shit.


And this is the stuff we know about...

 

[ideologyhunter]

So right. We still don't know what he said to Putin in that exchange with just an interpreter at hand.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I’m coming into this thread late and haven’t read the whole thing but I was wondering if the three great laws Trump created have been stated yet.

 

[bilby]

So, according to ABC News, this "good President" discussed sensitive nuclear secrets with an Australian billionaire who shared the info with "scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter."

According to Pratt's account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

That last bit is the "holy fucking shit, he did not actually SAY that?" part. That's the sort of information that a sailor actually serving on one of these subs would not be able to share with anyone...even if they had the info.

Our adversaries would normally have to find someone with this intelligence, court them over the course of months or longer, and Trump just handed it out like candy. Again...holy fucking shit.


And this is the stuff we know about...

I like this bit:

"[They are] the most powerful machines ever built, and nobody knows where they are," Trump said on the Fox Business network.

Yeah, nah. The US Navy knows exactly where they are, but they had more sense than to tell Trump that, even when he was nominally the Commander in Chief.

"We'd love to tell you, Mr President, but it's so secret that nobody knows..."

 

[Ford]

So, according to ABC News, this "good President" discussed sensitive nuclear secrets with an Australian billionaire who shared the info with "scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter."

According to Pratt's account, as described by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should start buying its submarines from the United States, to which an excited Trump -- "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet -- then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

That last bit is the "holy fucking shit, he did not actually SAY that?" part. That's the sort of information that a sailor actually serving on one of these subs would not be able to share with anyone...even if they had the info.

Our adversaries would normally have to find someone with this intelligence, court them over the course of months or longer, and Trump just handed it out like candy. Again...holy fucking shit.


And this is the stuff we know about...

I like this bit:

"[They are] the most powerful machines ever built, and nobody knows where they are," Trump said on the Fox Business network.

Yeah, nah. The US Navy knows exactly where they are, but they had more sense than to tell Trump that, even when he was nominally the Commander in Chief.

"We'd love to tell you, Mr President, but it's so secret that nobody knows..."

I fully believe that if the US were really hiding crashed UFOs and alien bodies - and Trump was told the truth - we'd have known about it by as early as February 1st of 2017.

 

[Swammerdami]

Are you gonna respond to my other comments I gave you. I wanted to see what you were gonna say in response to it.

@NightHawkBuzz -- I hope you respond to my questions For example, what are your comments about the following video.
If you are afraid to watch the video and comment, it will be very hard to take you seriously.



Don't overlook that John Kelly was hand-picked by Trump for the most important White House job.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The shipping crate walls would be trivial to defeat. People keep obsessing about those stupid things but for the most part they're thin sheet metal you could cut with hand tools.

Are you talking about shipping containers?

A standard shipping container has walls made of 14 gauge corten steel - that's over 1.9mm thick. You're not cutting that with hand tools unless you have arms like Popeye the Sailor.

I don't know the details but I had read that tinsnips could do it.

 

[bilby]

The shipping crate walls would be trivial to defeat. People keep obsessing about those stupid things but for the most part they're thin sheet metal you could cut with hand tools.

Are you talking about shipping containers?

A standard shipping container has walls made of 14 gauge corten steel - that's over 1.9mm thick. You're not cutting that with hand tools unless you have arms like Popeye the Sailor.

I don't know the details but I had read that tinsnips could do it.

I do know the details, and I find that extremely implausible.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

The shipping crate walls would be trivial to defeat. People keep obsessing about those stupid things but for the most part they're thin sheet metal you could cut with hand tools.

Are you talking about shipping containers?

A standard shipping container has walls made of 14 gauge corten steel - that's over 1.9mm thick. You're not cutting that with hand tools unless you have arms like Popeye the Sailor.

I don't know the details but I had read that tinsnips could do it.

Tin snips, no. But battery powered grinder and a fist full of coarse cut off disc probably could. You'd ned several fuly charged battery packs.

 

[Elixir]

Is there anyone who does not get that Trump is full tilt crazy?

Yes there are millions.
There are even a handful here, including Buzz.

 

[RVonse]

Are you gonna respond to my other comments I gave you. I wanted to see what you were gonna say in response to it.

@NightHawkBuzz -- I hope you respond to my questions For example, what are your comments about the following video.
If you are afraid to watch the video and comment, it will be very hard to take you seriously.



Don't overlook that John Kelly was hand-picked by Trump for the most important White House job.

Swammerdami, what did you think of General George Patton? Would you put him in the Trump camp too?

A lot of the things that Patton said and did were regarded to be brutal and excessive by contemporaries exactly like your video describes Trump. At the time, they forced Patton to publicly apologize. And yet Eisenhower did not fire him because when it came to fighting a war, Patton knew how to win and (at the time) they felt it was not an option not to win. Another (not well known fact) is that Patton was one of the most popular generals among the enlisted because they knew their chances of survival were significantly higher with him.

Doing a good job and being liked don't always go hand in hand. Just ask some of the old Apple employees who used to work with Steve Jobs.

 

[laughing dog]

Doing a good job and being liked don't always go hand in hand. Just ask some of the old Apple employees who used to work with Steve Jobs.

Doing a lousy job and being disliked don’t always go hand in hand. Just ask a MAGAtard.