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With recent stabbings it is looking like the availability of knives may need to be restricted.
Like that stabbing in Saskatchewan with 10 dead and 18 injured.
1 suspect in mass stabbing in Canada found dead, the other is still missing

Maybe Canada needs to ban those assault knives ...
Knife attack in the prairie region of Canada was historic. Mass shooting attacks in US Schools is endemic.

But major Tasteless Points for trying to take a tragedy and score some pathetic rib off of it.
My point is mass shootings are a reflection of a growing cultural problem. Anger, hostility, and hate.

Guns have becone cool. Pick up a gun and somebody feels power over others. It does not tale a psycholgist to see it.

In the area a few days ago someone painted on a school a Nazi symbol and wrote Sandy Hook 2. This stuff is gettingcommon around here.

It is not the availbility of guns, or knives. In mass shootings that have been headed off bombs have been found along with guns. IEDs as we now call them are easy to make.
 

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So demeaning of cops and local authorities happened around the same magnitude everywhere
Well, no. The cities that summoned the wrath of BLM suffered a lot worse. I mean,


But, hey! No, there's no spike in crime. It's just a flesh wound.
So crime increased where #BLM has no footprint because...?
Did it?


Crime in Boise has been on a downward trend for years and is among the lowest in the nation. Boise remains an incredibly safe city and we have made crime rates for comparable cities available here.

Even with an increase in population, the property crime rate in Boise is going down and the violent crime rate has stayed at a low level.
Yes, it did.

The homicide rate for black males soared after May 2020. No BLM footprint? Okay.
Then what caused the rural murder rate to go similar amounts?

All you seem to have is links showing the murder rate went up. We know that, you don't need to prove it over and over. You need to prove that #BLM is responsible for the murder rate going up in Urban and Rural America.
 

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Then what caused the rural murder rate to go similar amounts?
Drugs. If you look at White County, AR, the one discussed in the WSJ article, the murder rate had been climbing since 2010.


She said the uptick in violence “seems to be drug-related.”
“Not necessarily drug-related but drugs are involved and we believed the offender to either have been intoxicated or impaired with drugs,” McCoy said. “We don’t have drug deals gone bad.”
She said because of the nature of the homicides she doesn’t believe they “have anything to do with COVID.”
 

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Then what caused the rural murder rate to go similar amounts?
Drugs. If you look at White County, AR, the one discussed in the WSJ article, the murder rate had been climbing since 2010.


She said the uptick in violence “seems to be drug-related.”
“Not necessarily drug-related but drugs are involved and we believed the offender to either have been intoxicated or impaired with drugs,” McCoy said. “We don’t have drug deals gone bad.”
She said because of the nature of the homicides she doesn’t believe they “have anything to do with COVID.”
So, drugs and #BLM. Man, that is funny how these two seemed to have the exact same affect, at the same time.
 

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Then what caused the rural murder rate to go similar amounts?
Drugs. If you look at White County, AR, the one discussed in the WSJ article, the murder rate had been climbing since 2010.


She said the uptick in violence “seems to be drug-related.”
“Not necessarily drug-related but drugs are involved and we believed the offender to either have been intoxicated or impaired with drugs,” McCoy said. “We don’t have drug deals gone bad.”
She said because of the nature of the homicides she doesn’t believe they “have anything to do with COVID.”
So, drugs and #BLM. Man, that is funny how these two seemed to have the exact same affect, at the same time.
Whut? What would be your explanation for the spike in black male homicides since May 2020? The murder spike is unique to this demographic. What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
 

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Then what caused the rural murder rate to go similar amounts?
Drugs. If you look at White County, AR, the one discussed in the WSJ article, the murder rate had been climbing since 2010.


She said the uptick in violence “seems to be drug-related.”
“Not necessarily drug-related but drugs are involved and we believed the offender to either have been intoxicated or impaired with drugs,” McCoy said. “We don’t have drug deals gone bad.”
She said because of the nature of the homicides she doesn’t believe they “have anything to do with COVID.”
So, drugs and #BLM. Man, that is funny how these two seemed to have the exact same affect, at the same time.
Whut? What would be your explanation for the spike in black male homicides since May 2020? The murder spike is unique to this demographic. What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
...and how they went out into Rural America to murder people.
 

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Then what caused the rural murder rate to go similar amounts?
Drugs. If you look at White County, AR, the one discussed in the WSJ article, the murder rate had been climbing since 2010.


She said the uptick in violence “seems to be drug-related.”
“Not necessarily drug-related but drugs are involved and we believed the offender to either have been intoxicated or impaired with drugs,” McCoy said. “We don’t have drug deals gone bad.”
She said because of the nature of the homicides she doesn’t believe they “have anything to do with COVID.”
So, drugs and #BLM. Man, that is funny how these two seemed to have the exact same affect, at the same time.
Whut? What would be your explanation for the spike in black male homicides since May 2020? The murder spike is unique to this demographic. What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
...and how they went out into Rural America to murder people.
Homicide is mostly intra-racial.
 

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Derail about Trump being worse than school shooters moved to ~Elsewhere.

Stay on topic within the thread; start a new thread if you’d like to explore a new topic.
 

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While serial killers have been around for a long time - consider Jack the Ripper - mass shootings are much more recent.
Mass shooters with a personal grievance, motivated to avenge some real or imagined wrongdoing by people they know, come in all races, colors, and ethnicities. But the very public shootings of strangers gathered for some shared purpose, like grocery shopping, movie watching, dancing in a nightclub, or getting an education, seem to mainly be executed by entitled, aggrieved, angry white males. Again, white privilege plays a role.

Conservative white people have been photographed open-carrying AR-15s and other sorts of enormous firearms while picking up donuts and coffee at the cafe, standing in line at the pharmacy, and perusing the bread aisle looking for hot dog buns on sale. The reasons they do this are varied, but what matters is that they feel safe doing so. They know their whiteness means people will give them the benefit of the doubt, despite knowing the men who shoot up the public schools, movie theaters, concert venues, and sidewalks of pedestrians are white. Their blatant displays serve to normalize seeing armed white people, making it even easier for mass shooters to enter public places without ringing alarm bells.

Black people too often can’t even shop for a pellet gun, play with a toy gun, or store their legally owned and licensed firearm in their car’s glove compartment without being seen as a dangerous threat and killed.
This appears to be an excerpt from an article by Liz Lapoint. Empirical analysis is not her forte. That's why she missed the fact that angry white males are under-represented on a per capita basis, while angry black males are over-represented. You can check that out by downloading a spreadsheet itemising mass shootings in the USA between 1966 and 2021 and providing comprehensive details from this site. One thing she is accidentally right about: Mass shooters are almost exclusively male.
 

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One might notice that the high age of the serial killer coincided with the sexual liberation of the 60s through 80s.
One does not. The median age of mass shooters is 33 years. There is no statistically significant change of it between 1961 and 2021.
 

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What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
Could it have anything to do with a number of very public executions of black men by the police in various parts of the country? Might such rampant racism and homicidal behavior by the police trigger black men to rise up in protest, sometimes with violence?
 

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What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
Could it have anything to do with a number of very public executions of black men by the police in various parts of the country? Might such rampant racism and homicidal behavior by the police trigger black men to rise up in protest, sometimes with violence?
It is a mystery!
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Honestly, it really reminds me of a meme from 4chan.

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Like all mass shootings, that can be any one of us getting killed but some peoples first instinct is to wonder what the race or political affiliation of the shooter is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Like the shooter gives a fuck about your race or political affiliation most of the time.
 

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What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
Could it have anything to do with a number of very public executions of black men by the police in various parts of the country? Might such rampant racism and homicidal behavior by the police trigger black men to rise up in protest, sometimes with violence?
That makes no sense whatsoever. There were 19 police shootings of unarmed black men in 2020. In many of these instances, there was a confrontation before the shooting. But how, at all, does that equate to the nearly 2,000+ excess black homicides in 2020? You don't like cops so you shoot up your hood?
 

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Like all mass shootings, that can be any one of us getting killed but some peoples first instinct is to wonder what the race or political affiliation of the shooter is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Like the shooter gives a fuck about your race or political affiliation most of the time.
I don't know. Mass shootings are mainly a white/hispanic thing. Kill as many as you can before being killed or offing yourself. Black guys seem to shoot wildly and many of their victims are just collateral to the main target.
 

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What was it about that time - though remembering two years ago is kind of hard - that made young black males more, er, enthusiastic about engaging in violent crime and murder? What could it have been? It's a mystery.
Could it have anything to do with a number of very public executions of black men by the police in various parts of the country? Might such rampant racism and homicidal behavior by the police trigger black men to rise up in protest, sometimes with violence?
That makes no sense whatsoever. There were 19 police shootings of unarmed black men in 2020. In many of these instances, there was a confrontation before the shooting. But how, at all, does that equate to the nearly 2,000+ excess black homicides in 2020?
Well, in those 2,000+ cases, there was no disagreement that there was a crime committed. That'd be the difference. Also, how is this on-topic?
 

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A big majority of gun crimes is committed with handguns, not rifles of any type, much less so-called "assault weapons".

Focus should be on people like Ezekiel Kelly, not having this futile obsession over banning a certain type of guns.
So we need to ban handguns as well to guarantee safety, is what you're saying?
Get rid of easy access to handguns yes
 

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The notion that the police will just shoot an armed black offender is false.
Nay lad, the narrative is police execute black offenders, armed or not.
It is amazing how many people actually believe that.

And here lies the problem. Instead of talking about the issues in our country with better informed folks we focus on the beliefs of nut jobs. American's do this to each other on just about any topic, it's why we're getting nowhere on our big problems. For example instead of saying Briana Taylor died because the police committed a crime, we say, "BLM destroyed cities!". The hell does a bunch of idiots exploiting a movement to get free shit and cause destruction have to do with a women getting killed by police because they straight up lied to a judge to get a search warrant? Same thing with mass shootings, instead of putting our heads together to see how we can prevent law abiding lunatics from getting guns while at the same time not prevent law abiding semi lunatic Americans from getting them we scream "Criminals don't care about gun laws!". As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
 

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As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
Right. They are not the same. So the approach to either would be different. For the latter, simply enforcing gun laws, i.e., denying bail and putting away gun offenders to serve their full sentences, would work wonders.
 

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As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
Right. They are not the same. So the approach to either would be different. For the latter, simply enforcing gun laws, i.e., denying bail and putting away gun offenders to serve their full sentences, would work wonders.
That is how we got rid of murder!
 

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As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
Right. They are not the same. So the approach to either would be different. For the latter, simply enforcing gun laws, i.e., denying bail and putting away gun offenders to serve their full sentences, would work wonders.
That is how we got rid of murder!
It's weird. When offenders are actually prosecuted and kept in prision they can't terrorize the public. Why would that be?
 

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As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
Right. They are not the same. So the approach to either would be different. For the latter, simply enforcing gun laws, i.e., denying bail and putting away gun offenders to serve their full sentences, would work wonders.
That is how we got rid of murder!
It's weird. When offenders are actually prosecuted and kept in prision they can't terrorize the public. Why would that be?
You seem to be misunderstanding the goal here. It is to prevent mass school shootings, not to better prosecute them. The only people who haven't been imprisoned for shooting up a school are those that died in the attack. So, this whole, ain't prosecutin' enough is really silly.

Also people go to jail for a long time for murder... yet, people still make with the murder.
 

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As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
Right. They are not the same. So the approach to either would be different. For the latter, simply enforcing gun laws, i.e., denying bail and putting away gun offenders to serve their full sentences, would work wonders.
That is how we got rid of murder!
It's weird. When offenders are actually prosecuted and kept in prision they can't terrorize the public. Why would that be?
You seem to be misunderstanding the goal here. It is to prevent mass school shootings, not to better prosecute them. The only people who haven't been imprisoned for shooting up a school are those that died in the attack. So, this whole, ain't prosecutin' enough is really silly.

Also people go to jail for a long time for murder... yet, people still make with the murder.
You’re so bogged down in the details of the murder/arrest/imprisonment dynamic as a path to improving a democratic society, you’ve lost sight of the critical fact that “Oleg” isn’t interested in that.

The Police State is the objective, not improving democratic society.
 

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While hilarious I doubt that's true about Oleg. I believe everyone cares to an extent (at least the folks who are powerless). The mistake most of the flock make is being sheep in the first place. I truly believe when faced with the truth the majority of people concede. Some have to experience the realities themselves before they can recognize their error. Thankfully, not enough of these people experienced having a child go to school and never come home and then have to listen to their governor drone on about why adults who can't by liquor can buy guns.
 

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It is to prevent mass school shootings, not to better prosecute them.
As Gospel pointed out, there's a difference between the Uvalde-type mass shooter and car jackers / gang shootings. Preventing the former is hard; preventing the latter is not.
 

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It is to prevent mass school shootings, not to better prosecute them.
As Gospel pointed out, there's a difference between the Uvalde-type mass shooter and car jackers / gang shootings. Preventing the former is hard; preventing the latter is not.
You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.

And that isn't a joke! You start in one city, then you'll be heading all over the place. You'll get a huge book deal too probably.

So what in the heck are you waiting for? Get that plan going!
 

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You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.
NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.
 

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It is to prevent mass school shootings, not to better prosecute them.
As Gospel pointed out, there's a difference between the Uvalde-type mass shooter and car jackers / gang shootings. Preventing the former is hard; preventing the latter is not.

Do you have a local store you often visit and know most the customers who go in and out by name with many of them having felony warrants out and/or other miscellaneous charges? There is a general fear of the police amongst these people. Have you ever met a person that one second they are talking to you and then the next second they are full throttle sprinting before you even see the police car?

I doubt you ever wondered why young black males in ghettos across America are not afraid to shoot or get shot by their own people yet as soon as a patrol car rolls around the corner, everyone cuts ass like a skunk raided the picnic.

It's not like the police are THAT much better at shooting than they are. It's the show and use of force. You seem to be under the impression because you saw some You tube videos and articles about flash mobs (the social media arranged snatch and grab types) coupled with the exploitation of BLM protests of late that the policing has been any different.

I mean year over year we're still the GOATS at being incarcerated. There has been a decline since 2006 though. Ya think that has to do with cities being soft on Antifa & BLM? I don't think they were around that long. I believe black folks are just getting better at not giving the government a reason to lock us up.

Edit: Sorry which brings me back to mass shootings. The whole reason I just went there is these mass shooters in many cases don't seem to fear being seen in broad daylight. And it's not solely because they don't care to live to see the next day. Their aim is to do as much damage as possible and getting caught by the police would get in the way of that. They have no fear of the police. There is nothing in the way of anyone who wakes up one day and says "fuck it, imma go shoot YOU KIDS!".

If I ever asked a drug dealer in my hood to post what he's fixing to do on the internet he'd never want to talk to me again.

Just a thought.
 

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The Police State is the objective, not improving democratic society.
How do you improve society by making it unsafe?
Best reason against a police state, when you stop and think about it.

NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.
I can't believe this needs to be pointed out but solutions that create a ton of problems aren't really solutions.
 

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You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.
NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.
You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.
NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.

Too bad Giuliani has gone coocoo for trumpo-puffs. Maybe he could have come up with a stop and frisk version for mass shooters.
 

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Best reason against a police state, when you stop and think about it.
M'kay. If the state abdicates its responsibilty to protect the public, only natural that people will resort to self help. Do you approve?



I can't believe this needs to be pointed out but solutions that create a ton of problems aren't really solutions.
Yes. How horrible that so many people were spared being victimized. Won't anyone think of the poor offender?
 

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You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.
NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.
That isn't a plan, that is listing one city, two mayors. Also, murders peaked in 1990 and dropped 33% BEFORE Giuliani became Mayor.

This trend was seen nationally, and there is no consensus as to exactly why it happened. And it gets exhausting having to say this over and over.

So, ultimately, your claim that it wouldn't be hard to prevent these gang deaths appears to be just bluster (I'm being polite <- arguably that is passive aggressive). As I said, if you know an easy way to do this, it'll win you the Presidential Medal of Honor. But it sounds like all you have for a plan is "law and order".
 

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How horrible that so many people were spared being victimized.
Of course you’re talking about those NINE violent vigilantes. I agree - they belong in jail right next to that ONE perp.
Every single right wing Nazi at the Charlottesville murder scene, every 1/6 rioter, yup. Lockemup.

I swear, Oleg you are weakening so rapidly it will soon be impossible to distinguish your posts from those of Baghdad Barbie.

sounds like all you have for a plan is "law and order".

Oleg is a Democrat? Who knew?
 

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How do you improve society by making it unsafe?
A question for RW pretenders to “law&order”, who turn a blind eye to the felonious behavior of their mango Mussolini and his gang of murderous thieves.
They, like you, would love to be in control of a Police State. Which would make THEM safe and place everyone else at high risk.
Are you one of THEM, Oleg?
I know you can’t answer questions, but it sure seems like it.

More so, you fit the mold of the people who replaced the federal agents I spent over a decade trying to protect. Brutish sadistic thugs replaced the mostly humanitarian inclined agents of CBP, ICE, FLETC and other DHS agencies as soon as Trump took office.
 

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As if the criminals doing mass shootings are the same criminals as home invaders, car jackers or a bunch of gang affiliated niggas shooting each other on the streets. They are not.
Right. They are not the same. So the approach to either would be different. For the latter, simply enforcing gun laws, i.e., denying bail and putting away gun offenders to serve their full sentences, would work wonders.
That is how we got rid of murder!
It's weird. When offenders are actually prosecuted and kept in prision they can't terrorize the public. Why would that be?
You seem to be misunderstanding the goal here. It is to prevent mass school shootings, not to better prosecute them. The only people who haven't been imprisoned for shooting up a school are those that died in the attack. So, this whole, ain't prosecutin' enough is really silly.

Also people go to jail for a long time for murder... yet, people still make with the murder.
You’re so bogged down in the details of the murder/arrest/imprisonment dynamic as a path to improving a democratic society, you’ve lost sight of the critical fact that “Oleg” isn’t interested in that.

The Police State is the objective, not improving democratic society.
Well, you can't fill a prison full of poor black slaves without a police state.
 

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You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.
NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.
Was not. Stop-and-frisk had next to no effect on crime rates in New York.
statistics show that there is apparently no relationship between crime and stop-and-frisk: data collected shows that property crime and violent crime in New York both consistently fell over time, despite the fact that the number of stops both increased and decreased during the same time period. This lack of correlation may suggest that stop-and-frisks as a police tactic may be a waste of time and resources.

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You'll get a Presidential Medal of Honor for heading into the Chicago PD (or Baltimore or NYC) and provide and implement the plan that prevents gang shootings.
NYC - Guillani and Bloomberg era. You may not like it, but it was.
Was not. Stop-and-frisk had next to no effect on crime rates in New York.
statistics show that there is apparently no relationship between crime and stop-and-frisk: data collected shows that property crime and violent crime in New York both consistently fell over time, despite the fact that the number of stops both increased and decreased during the same time period. This lack of correlation may suggest that stop-and-frisks as a police tactic may be a waste of time and resources.

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Wait. Are you saying Oleg was wrong, simply blowing smoke up our collective ass?
 

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The Police State is the objective, not improving democratic society.
How do you improve society by making it unsafe?
It's a thing called "freedom". You probably haven't really grasped what it means, particularly if you're an American (in US English, "Freedom" is the antonym of "Communism", which other English speakers call "political opinions I agree with" or "political opinions I disagree with", respectively).

In the rest of the English speaking world, "freedom" is the opposite of "law"; It's the condition of allowing individual people to decide for themselves how to behave, rather than having a set of mandated rules or laws that they must comply with.

Of course, lots of people like the idea that everything possible should be mandated by law. But most of us prefer at least some freedom.

Safety is nice to have, but it's not the only thing a society should strive for, if you want it's members to be happy.

It would maximise safety to lock everyone in a padded cell and never let them out. If you genuinely want that level of safety, your local psychiatric hospital can probably oblige you; But if you try to impose safety on others, you can expect them to fight you.
 

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The Police State is the objective, not improving democratic society.
How do you improve society by making it unsafe?
It's a thing called "freedom". You probably haven't really grasped what it means, particularly if you're an American (in US English, "Freedom" is the antonym of "Communism", which other English speakers call "political opinions I agree with" or "political opinions I disagree with", respectively).

In the rest of the English speaking world, "freedom" is the opposite of "law"; It's the condition of allowing individual people to decide for themselves how to behave, rather than having a set of mandated rules or laws that they must comply with.

Of course, lots of people like the idea that everything possible should be mandated by law. But most of us prefer at least some freedom.

Safety is nice to have, but it's not the only thing a society should strive for, if you want it's members to be happy.

It would maximise safety to lock everyone in a padded cell and never let them out. If you genuinely want that level of safety, your local psychiatric hospital can probably oblige you; But if you try to impose safety on others, you can expect them to fight you.
Well sure, there’s that. But seriously … if we made everything from jaywalking to stealing National secrets a Capital Crime, we could commute most sentences to lifetime servitude (NOT SLAVERY) and we can all live in luxury.
Democrats want to deprive you of that and place you in the way of harm by those same criminals who should be waxing your Lambo.
 

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Democrats want to deprive you of that and place you in the way of harm by those same criminals who should be waxing your Lambo.
Waxing his 2-stage articulated bus with independent rear wheel steering, not his lambo. Way cooler than any Italian trash.
 

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Democrats want to deprive you of that and place you in the way of harm by those same criminals who should be waxing your Lambo.
Waxing his 2-stage articulated bus with independent rear wheel steering, not his lambo. Way cooler than any Italian trash.
Our articulated buses are German; The ones with the rear wheel steering are Swedish rigid buses.

None of them are exactly sporty. I was going up the hill on Creek Road yesterday at 25kph, with the gas pedal flat on the floor. It's a 70 limit, so I wasn't popular with the following traffic. :D

There's a species of tropical fish in Panama that has an alimentary canal just 100mm in total length; Even so, it's not as gutless as a MAN A24 CNG articulated bus.
 

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A question for RW pretenders to “law&order”, who turn a blind eye to the felonious behavior of their mango Mussolini and his gang of murderous thieves.
Is there really no way to have a conversation without bringing this guy up? It’s like, you can’t live without him. Get help.
 

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Wait. Are you saying Oleg was wrong, simply blowing smoke up our collective ass?

The most prominent of his policy changes was the aggressive policing of lower-level crimes, a policy which has been dubbed the "broken windows" approach to law enforcement. In this view, small disorders lead to larger ones and perhaps even to crime. As Mr. Guiliani told the press in 1998, "Obviously murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other."

The police measure that most consistently reduces crime is the arrest rate of those involved in crime, the study finds. Felony arrest rates (except for motor vehicle thefts) rose 50 to 70 percent in the 1990s. When arrests of burglars increased 10 percent, the number of burglaries fell 2.7 to 3.2 percent. When the arrest rate of robbers rose 10 percent, the number of robberies fell 5.7 to 5.9 percent. In the case of murder, the decline was 3.9 to 4 percent; in the case of assault, 2 to 2.4 percent; and for motor vehicle theft, 5 to 5.1 percent.

The contribution of such deterrence measures (the "stick") offers more explanation for the decline in New York City crime than the improvement in the economy, the authors conclude. Between 1990 and 1999, homicide dropped 73 percent, burglary 66 percent, assault 40 percent, robbery 67 percent, and vehicle hoists 73 percent. The authors' model manages to explain between 33 and 86 percent of those declines.
 
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