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[TomC]

Why do grown ass men have any interest in boobs?

Don't give me some bullshit, "Boobs Rock!"

Tell me exactly why boobs matter to anyone over age 4. In a rational explanation, explain it.
Tom

 

[bilby]

Why do grown ass men have any interest in boobs?

Don't give me some bullshit, "Boobs Rock!"

Tell me exactly why boobs matter to anyone over age 4. In a rational explanation, explain it.
Tom

It's been programmed into us by tens of thousands of years of evolution.

Why do peahens have any interest in massive fans of colourful feathers? Same reason.

There's a shit-ton if pop-psychology that tries to provide a more focused explanation, but it's almost all bullshit as far as I can tell.

Men like boobs because they like boobs.

 

[scombrid]

Drag queens performing for kiddies fine, the musical “Oliver”, too much to bear;

A woke California school has removed more than 250 first-graders out of the musical Oliver! mid-song and banned other students from seeing the show amid claims it was 'inappropriate'. Principal May Moua, from Kastner Intermediate School, Fresno, stopped seventh and eighth-grade students from attending the school show a day later because of concerns about 'violence, alcohol use and thievery'.

Daily Mail

What an upside down world we inhabit.

Dude, you have clearly never been to the 'burbs of Fresno. There is exactly zero chance that the complaining teachers were liberals, let alone "woke"; they'd be run out of town with a rusty shotgun.

Violence, alcohol, thievery? Yeah, you know it was antiwoke Qaren what got all upset at Oliver.

 

[TomC]

Men like boobs because they like boobs.

Boobs Rock!

Yeah, whatever.

Great thing about being part of an irrational majority. You can say anything and it doesn't matter if it's rational or not.

Jesus Saves!
That's part of my world.

Thanks for sharing.

Tom

 

[bilby]

Men like boobs because they like boobs.

Boobs Rock!

Yeah, whatever.

Great thing about being part of an irrational majority. You can say anything and it doesn't matter if it's rational or not.

Jesus Saves!
That's part of my world.

Thanks for sharing.

Tom

Did you bother to read any of the rest of my post?

Evolution is a reason, whether or not it is rational. Why do you think rationality even enters the equation?

 

[thebeave]

Why do grown ass men have any interest in boobs?

Don't give me some bullshit, "Boobs Rock!"

Tell me exactly why boobs matter to anyone over age 4. In a rational explanation, explain it.
Tom

One could ask the same thing about dicks with regard to women and gay men. Personally, even though I have one, I find them to be at best goofy looking and even comical. And nasty ole piss comes out of it. From that perspective, why any woman (or man) would want to put their mouth around one is beyond me. They just like it. Its hardwired into them. And I have no complaints.

 

[Jarhyn]

Men like boobs because they like boobs.

Boobs Rock!

Yeah, whatever.

Great thing about being part of an irrational majority. You can say anything and it doesn't matter if it's rational or not.

Jesus Saves!
That's part of my world.

Thanks for sharing.

Tom

People like people with boobs because the people that liked boobs in those that would bear their children had successful children to an extent that it created a better-than-random-chance selection pressure.

Why? Because selection for things that have been selectively beneficial in the past is itself something for which there is better-than-random-chance selection pressure.

People like things that help them and their children survive because they lead to reproductive success and power. This is intrinsically valuable.

It helps less when those boobs have no biological cue to produce milk following a pregnancy, or when the one who has the boobs can walk away from the pregnant parent, so the ones with boobs tended towards the ones which bore the young and birthed them.

It is also less helpful when those boobs are attached to someone who can be expected to run around and kill shit because they don't have a (perhaps active) baby factory attached to their physiology. As such it is adaptive, at least in some settings, for this to be skewed away from occurring in the population that cannot carry a pregnancy.

These are just unavoidable consequences of live birth and organ distribution across sexes.

So some "men" like "boobs" because the part of the brain that identifies them is connected to a reward function that fires in conjunction with appreciation, which was accidentally expressed in one of our ancestors and which came to switch comorbidity with genital configuration, ultimately selected for because it more securely guarantees that the young will be fed.

Not all of these facts are as pressing for what humans are today. We don't need to run around and place those with testicles at great risk.

 

[TomC]

Bless Your Hearts
Tom

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Jesus Saves!
That's part of my world.

Because the power is unreliable in heaven.

 

[Metaphor]

Bless Your Hearts
Tom

Tom, come on. It has never crossed my mind that heterosexual men need to explain "rationally" why they like the female form, and in particular such an outward and obvious marker of femaleness and reminder of sexual fitness.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

One could ask the same thing about dicks with regard to women and gay men. Personally, even though I have one, I find them to be at best goofy looking and even comical. And nasty ole piss comes out of it. From that perspective, why any woman (or man) would want to put their mouth around one is beyond me. They just like it. Its hardwired into them. And I have no complaints.

Exactly. I'm a Kinsey 0.0--I can't see how anyone could be interested in a dick and find them a negative in porn. While intellectually I know something over 50% of the adult population is attracted to them I find it utterly baffling that anyone would be.

 

[ZiprHead]

From that perspective, why any woman (or man) would want to put their mouth around one is beyond me. They just like it. Its hardwired into them. And I have no complaints.

Many men's wives would disagree.

 

[Bronzeage]

This bizzare push by the left to normalize child sexuality. It's a pedophile's dream come true.

Adult men who dress as women is not normalizing child sexuality.

Young girls who are dressed as adult women and perform in beauty pageants is a different matter and that is generally the realm of the right, at least the mothers.

 

[Emily Lake]

Here's my take on this. Drag is a bunch of male actors in womanface. I find it to be generally offensive and denigrating toward women. And for that reason, I do NOT think it has any place in schools or as children's entertainment... unless you're actually trying to teach children that women are worthless sex objects that should be made fun of.

Drag goes both ways. It's just male-as-female is a lot more common than female-as-male.

Sure... and the teensy weensy difference where female drag performers dressed up in male clothing aren't performing a derogatory caricature of men... But hey, what does that matter?

 

[Emily Lake]

Why do grown ass men have any interest in boobs?

Don't give me some bullshit, "Boobs Rock!"

Tell me exactly why boobs matter to anyone over age 4. In a rational explanation, explain it.
Tom

I can't speak for gay men on this... but for the majority of the population, breasts are an indicator of female sexual maturity. That in turn signals reproductive readiness, and the male drive to pass on their genes kicks in. Same thing with round butts and hips. They're all secondary sex characteristics that advertise the ability of the female to bear offspring. Humans are fairly sexually dimorphic, and given that human females don't go into a seasonal estrus cycle, but ovulate on a frequent basis... boobs are pretty tightly coupled to the male reproductive drive.

 

[Emily Lake]

Bless Your Hearts
Tom

Tom, come on. It has never crossed my mind that heterosexual men need to explain "rationally" why they like the female form, and in particular such an outward and obvious marker of femaleness and reminder of sexual fitness.

This, in a nutshell.

 

[Emily Lake]

Adult men who dress as women is not normalizing child sexuality.

Way to downplay this.

Adult men who dress as OVERTLY SEXUALIZED CARICATURES OF WOMEN and then insist on doing so in front of children are normalizing the idea of sexual adults spending time with children.

Whatsisname deputy attorney general or whatever is a male dressed as a woman, but I doubt anyone in their right mind would view it as him sexualizing children, were he to spend time with kids in an otherwise normal setting. He's just a cross-dresser and/or transgender.

On the other hand, having a female stripper show up in her stripper gear and read stories to kids while gyrating would very reasonably be viewed as her sexualizing children.

ETA: Not so much "sexualizing children"... more like "incorporating children into sexualized situations" But that's a lot of words to write so I hope the shorthand appropriately conveys the longhand.

 

[Oleg]

Adult men who dress as women is not normalizing child sexuality.

Not when they’re performing in front of adults, no. But wearing lingerie and thrusting your crotch in front of children, yes. We’re not discussing Dame Edna here. So much misdirection to defend putting children in adult spaces. Why?

 

[Learner]

Stating (what should be) the obvious - We need to be careful, how far this goes, depending what is exposed to young children, who can easily be influenced.

7- year old girl receives breast implants for Christmas

 

[laughing dog]

I agree that society needs to be careful about sexualizing children. As others have observed, child beauty pageants are the place to start - they are much more prevalent and entrenched in our society.