The problem here is you are mixing up "justified" with "reality". In reality #3 becomes #2 and thus we say that those who take position 3 are really taking position 2.
I think the correct thing to do is to try and convict and imprison a rapist.
How in the world do you think the PA would extradite a terrorist?!?! Even Europe wouldn't extradite the Munich terrorists which is why Israel resorted to assassination.
To continue this idiotic comparison between a terrorist organization and a rapist...
Your ability to mischaracterize what I have actually said into the opposite is something I'm all too familiar with.
They are not obligated to. But neither are they obligated not to. The deaths of human shields falls on the side that made them shields.
Israel perfectly well knows they can't be eradicated. Rather, this is an effort to keep them from attacking for a while.
The Palestinian civilian deaths were expected by Hamas. They chose to act knowing that--the deaths are their responsibility. Not only that, but civilian deaths were a desired objective of Hamas.
What does his attitude have to do with what might happen over there? He's not in any way a decision maker. Once again, you're avoiding the point.
Peace requires Iran to quit pouring money into terror.
Then why do you keep doing it?
It has already been pointed out that their government pays for terrorism. And I've pointed out the wall built to stop small arms fire--nobody builds walls like that unless they are actually facing such fire.
But you expect them to lie down and die rather than be not quite so nice.
Cite? I haven't heard of this one.
Looking for your keys under the streetlight is so effective.
The two positions are not mutually exclusive.
There never was a bridge to peace.
The problem is that they have shown they'll use their state to attack Israel, not to mind their own business.
so, does that make them legitimate targets of war? Their deaths are justified if they die during an attack on Hamas personnel or infrastructure?
They aren't particularly compatible.
No however, no but. Either the average Palestinian has no ability to choose peace or they are enabling Hamas. You don't get to speak out of both sides of your mouth.
Netanyahu saw to that when he fanned the flames that got Rabin assassinated. Why are you backing that asshole?
Indeed, that makes it much harder. But when you have the Netanyahus out there making policy, it isn't exactly like they are negotiating in good faith.
No kidding. It sucks, it is terrible. This doesn't mean what Israel is still doing is making things better long term for them. You keep trying to make excuses for the extended Military action, instead of showing how the action will work to protect Israelis, other than the good ole fashioned say so.
And once again you fail to understand. You qualified your statement with "immediate". In civilian self defense that is a required attribute because the assumption is that you can go to the police otherwise. However, there's no police to go to in this case, "immediate" has no relevance.
Islam and Democracy for a discussion.
Dude, I was just saying castration doesn’t stop a rapist.
Execution will though.
Typically the execution follows a trial, that demonstrates the named person was found guilty of committing a horrific crime.
So anything goes when it's war? There is no such thing as a war crime? By that argument, Hamas's Oct-7 Aqsa Flood attack is completely legitimate because it is part of a war.
