How can you say that all environments are equal when they behave completely different?

[Jarhyn]

Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level.

What's wrong with me having rights at a "full level" now?

 

[Rhea]

Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level.

What's wrong with me having rights at a "full level" now?

That’s great question. What is wrong with Jarhyn having full rights as a citizen?

 

[NightHawkBuzz]

Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level.

What's wrong with me having rights at a "full level" now?

That’s great question. What is wrong with Jarhyn having full rights as a citizen?

There's nothing wrong with it. We just have different opinions we just see things differently.

 

[zorq]

But remember the things they stand for are good things. Liberals want to allow for full trans rights and lgbtq rigths. Liberals want to allow there to be a different gender besides male and female. Biden is responsible for allowing so many migrants to be here. Liberals want to allow so many illegals to be here as well as having almost open borders.

There laws are good because liberals are trying to trying to change this country in a very dangerous way.

What are the things that Republicans stand for that are "good things?" Oppression of minorities? Theocratic absolutism? Destruction of democracy? Minority Rule? Poverty wages for the working class? Tax loopholes for billionaires? Banning (or burning) books from libraries?

What is the problem with trans people having rights like everyone else?

Liberals are willing and able to acknowledge facts about reality which include hard physical facts of the universe and biology on planet Earth like, "gender and sexuality are fluid concepts." But the science deniers are the people you praise?

"Migrants?" Newsflash buddy, The US has always been a nation of immigrants. Literally from the 1500's it has been wave after wave of immigrants and it hasn't really changed all that much in the past 3 years. The borders have always been open to people dedicated to moving to the US and it has never been a terrible problem or burden to the US. Just business as usual. Collectively, immigrants are an economic boon to the US and individually have lower rates of incarceration than the population who was born in the US. What is the big problem with immigrants? Are they just scary?

 

[Patooka]

There's nothing wrong with it. We just have different opinions we just see things differently.

If you are entering politics you might want to clarify that just a tad. What is "trans rights at a full level", why are you against it and why are you fine with Jarhyn having full rights when that clearly contradicts your previous statement?

If you can't answer that in a relatively anonymous forum then you are fucked when you do actual campaigning.

 

[Jarhyn]

Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level.

What's wrong with me having rights at a "full level" now?

That’s great question. What is wrong with Jarhyn having full rights as a citizen?

There's nothing wrong with it. We just have different opinions we just see things differently.

Different opinions on me "having rights at a full level". So either you see something wrong with it or you are a "liberal".

Let's dig into this again, what rights do you not want me to have and on what justification?

And if you start talking about the blood libel that people have been whipping up lately, we're going to have issues.

The only things I as a trans person what rights to are the rights to, as a trans person, consult with a medical professional and receive the care outlined in the SoC8, and have the exact same rights as anyone else, pri.arily the right to be left alone unless I do something that damages someone else's life, liberty or pursuit of happiness.

You are being dreadfully disingenuous about what a "difference of opinion" means here. In fact, you make mockery if t very idea of an "opinion".

So let's get back to it: exactly what rights have trans people sought that is unreasonable, and then we can dig up all the times in the past where I have actually discussed here on these forums and which you have full access to what I find reasonable.

Also as an aside to Rhea because I AM aware of how ugly these things turn, I would like to apologize for being the can of worms this very fine person just opened.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level.

What's wrong with me having rights at a "full level" now?

That’s great question. What is wrong with Jarhyn having full rights as a citizen?

There's nothing wrong with it. We just have different opinions we just see things differently.

Now that is political pedigree Say something controversial, get asked about it, and answer in such a way to appear thoughtful despite effectively ignoring the question.

 

[pood]

But remember the things they stand for are good things. Liberals want to allow for full trans rights and lgbtq rigths. Liberals want to allow there to be a different gender besides male and female. Biden is responsible for allowing so many migrants to be here. Liberals want to allow so many illegals to be here as well as having almost open borders.

There laws are good because liberals are trying to trying to change this country in a very dangerous way.

So you have a problem with lesbian-gay-bisexual-transexual rights? What problem would that be? Also, most of these “illegal immigrants” you keep nattering ignorantly about are REFUGEES from countries in turmoil, where their lives are in danger, often because of OUR meddling in those countries. Most of the people that come into this country, illegal or otherwise, are astoundingly honest and hard working people who get exploited all over the place. I personally KNOW some of these people, living as I do in a big city. Hell, guess why your lettuce and many other farm products at the store are so cheap? Got a clue.

Incidentally, TRANSSEXUAL people exist. People whose brain gender and body gender disagree EXIST. How dare you presume to deny them their human rights?

You have NO BUSINESS in politics. People like you in politics ARE the problem.

 

[Elixir]

Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level.

What's wrong with me having rights at a "full level" now?

That’s great question. What is wrong with Jarhyn having full rights as a citizen?

There's nothing wrong with it. We just have different opinions we just see things differently.

So you're a liberal? Or you want to mete out rights at "levels" that comport with your fucking OPINION?
You'd make a great President.
Of Shitcanistan!

 

[steve_bank]

But yeah everyone I feel represents me is Trump, Johnson and Ron Desantis.

Those three are who all represent me.

I find all three of those men to be bad human beings who harm others with a smile on their face.
They *are* the High School Bullies (tm)

I’m you were trying to decide what to say to move me from “this fellow doesn’t seem genuine” straight over to “I don’t have any space in my life for that kind of fellow,” you found it.

Have fun worshipping the bullies. Ironically, they wouldn’t give you the time of day, let alone the attention and advice this forum has given you. They are terrible human beings. But if that’s who you want to give your lunch money to, you should go open an account at the extremist social forum that Trump owns. I can’t imagine why you would want to hang around here or seek advice from us.

But remember the things they stand for are good things. Liberals want to allow for full trans rights and lgbtq rigths. Liberals want to allow there to be a different gender besides male and female. Biden is responsible for allowing so many migrants to be here. Liberals want to allow so many illegals to be here as well as having almost open borders.

There laws are good because liberals are trying to trying to change this country in a very dangerous way.

1900 America was out what it was in 1800. 2023 America is not what it was in 2000.

From the start we have been in a dynamic state of change. Some conservatives seem to think we are in the 19th century.

I agree on the birder situation, but keep in mind it goes far back in time. The border has always been open to illegal immigration. Why? Because business and people wanted it. Cheap labor.

There is an old 1940s movie Border Incident. It is about human trafficking to supply American business and farm labor.

The problem today is the scale. Both sides have kicked the can down the road for decades. You can not blzme just the liberals.

 

[Elixir]

Your right

Yes I am.
And that’s “you’re”, which is a contraction of “you are”. “Your” is the possessive form.

It would work like this, if I wanted to dismiss a person’s ability due to their habitual misuse of American English: “You’re too illiterate to serve in any position of responsibility, even if your illiteracy creates a sense of fraternity with the dumbest and most ignorant segments of society.”

We can work on colors tomorrow.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I mean, anyone that can say Trump is their "Republican" can't possibly be into politics. Trump isn't a Republican. He isn't a politician. He has no positions other than "Trump!"

I doubt Nighthawk had ever heard of Rep. Johnson before he won the Speakership vote. I know I hadn't.

Your right I didn't know him before he got elected however I choose him as one of my three though because of where he stands on issues and how he received a unanimous vote to be elected speaker. I still choose Trump and Ron Desantis as well though.

Incredible how quickly you put your cart behind a horse you never heard of a week before.

 

[Elixir]

I mean, anyone that can say Trump is their "Republican" can't possibly be into politics. Trump isn't a Republican. He isn't a politician. He has no positions other than "Trump!"

I doubt Nighthawk had ever heard of Rep. Johnson before he won the Speakership vote. I know I hadn't.

Your right I didn't know him before he got elected however I choose him as one of my three though because of where he stands on issues and how he received a unanimous vote to be elected speaker. I still choose Trump and Ron Desantis as well though.

Incredible how quickly you put your cart behind a horse you never heard of a week before.

Prob’ly the idea of coddling billionaire tax cheats appeals to aspiring GOP Pres contenders.

 

[laughing dog]

Like I said it is more than just one person I feel represents me in the party I was gonna say trump as well.

But yeah everyone I feel represents me is Trump, Johnson and Ron Desantis.

Those three are who all represent me.

What is it about each of those men that leads you to say they "represent you"? I ask, because I have a brother who voted for Mr. Trump in order to stick it to the elites/liberals but who did not think Mr. Trump represented him.

Frankly, all 3 of those particular examples make me, a white male US citizen, ashamed to be a US white male citizen.

They represent me because of what they stand for. Liberals want to allow trans rights at a full level. Liberals want to allow for open borders and allow illegal immigrants to come into this country at a high rate. These three men don't stand for any of these things and more this is why they represent me.

I don't understand what "allow trans right at a full level" even means. What "rights" do trans want that others already have that you object to?

Liberals do not want completely open borders. Liberals want a sane, humane, and effective immigration policy. Hell, Obama built more wall along the border than Trump and deported more undocumented people than Trump.

While I get that the MAGA crowd embraces people who say Trump and Johnson are their type of person (not Desantis, you will have a problem there), centrists and independents tend to repelled by Trump and Johnson. Unless you live in a solid MAGA electoral area, you might want to rethink embracing such politicians.

 

[Elixir]

Unless you live in a solid MAGA electoral area, you might want to rethink embracing such politicians.

Yeah I’d suggest testing the waters by trying out for local dog catcher, but I care too deeply for dogs.

 

[TomC]

Incredible how quickly you put your cart behind a horse you never heard of a week before.

I don't even find that surprising. Mike Johnson wasn't a household name, but he was a known quantity. Easy to find out more about, if you pay any attention.

The part I find incredible is that anyone can claim to be a Christian American while supporting Trump and the Teaparty, particularly on immigration policies. From the words of Jesus to The Statue of Liberty, Trump's Wall goes against everything this country has stood for since before it was a country.

Back when America Was Great we had zillions of immigrants. Poor and desperate people, like the current wave of Central Americans. There is no possible way to justify Teaparty attitudes with traditional conservative values in the USA.
None.
Tom

 

[Patooka]

Your right

Yes I am.
And that’s “you’re”, which is a contraction of “you are”. “Your” is the possessive form.

It would work like this, if I wanted to dismiss a person’s ability due to their habitual misuse of American English: “You’re too illiterate to serve in any position of responsibility, even if your illiteracy creates a sense of fraternity with the dumbest and most ignorant segments of society.”

We can work on colors tomorrow.

Not if you spell colours wrong. Yes I am dying on this hill because I am wear armour not made of al-oooooo-mee-yum. It will protect me.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Your right

Yes I am.
And that’s “you’re”, which is a contraction of “you are”. “Your” is the possessive form.

It would work like this, if I wanted to dismiss a person’s ability due to their habitual misuse of American English: “You’re too illiterate to serve in any position of responsibility, even if your illiteracy creates a sense of fraternity with the dumbest and most ignorant segments of society.”

We can work on colors tomorrow.

Not if you spell colours wrong. Yes I am dying on this hill because I am wear armour not made of al-oooooo-mee-yum. It will protect me.

We don’t say “alumium” either.

 

[TomC]

because I am wear armour not made of

< snickers > at the language lesson

Tom

 

[bilby]

because I am wear armour not made of

< snickers > at the language lesson

Tom

No eating in class!