How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Elixir]

A hole? No. Just immersed in Godi media.

You sayin’ his brain’s been Modi-fied?

 

[Tigers!]

Russia has violated every peace agreement with Ukraine that it has signed. Ukraine would be crazy to sign any treaty with Russia that forced it to de-arm and give up defensive arms and strategic locations. Without peace keeping troops and massive amounts of defensive arms; Russia will invade again.

Nothing will be forced on Ukraine. That is Trump style. To Zelenskyy - 'Stop war or we don't send supplies'. To Putin - "Stop war or we increase sanctions'. Modi style is diplomacy. He is touch with Putin as well as Zelenskyy. He has consulted European leaders Macron, perhaps Germany too (Foreign Minister Jaishankar will be there on September 10-12. German Foreign Minister Wadephull was in India last week). I think both Russia and Ukraine have had enough. Let us see how it develops.

The only country benefiting from the war is Russia gaining land.

It is not certain that Russia will hold to all land that is under its control. It is your guess and may not necessarily be Putin's plan. Like I said, depends upon the type of peace agreement is signed.

I cannot recall any instance of Russian forces (incl. USSR) that have willingly returned terriority. If they step on it once they consider it theirs for perpituity.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Russia has violated every peace agreement with Ukraine that it has signed. Ukraine would be crazy to sign any treaty with Russia that forced it to de-arm and give up defensive arms and strategic locations. Without peace keeping troops and massive amounts of defensive arms; Russia will invade again.

Nothing will be forced on Ukraine. That is Trump style. To Zelenskyy - 'Stop war or we don't send supplies'. To Putin - "Stop war or we increase sanctions'. Modi style is diplomacy. He is touch with Putin as well as Zelenskyy. He has consulted European leaders Macron, perhaps Germany too (Foreign Minister Jaishankar will be there on September 10-12. German Foreign Minister Wadephull was in India last week). I think both Russia and Ukraine have had enough. Let us see how it develops.

The only country benefiting from the war is Russia gaining land.

It is not certain that Russia will hold to all land that is under its control. It is your guess and may not necessarily be Putin's plan. Like I said, depends upon the type of peace agreement is signed.

Sorry Amigo, but I don't think that any peace treaty signed by Putin is worth a hill billy's butt. Worthless. The only thing that Russia understands is strength. I think that the only thing that will prevent future war is for Ukraine to become like a very dangerous steel porcupine. Become so strongly defensive, that Russia won't attack.

 

[WAB]

Hey there! I'm a hillbilly. Born right near the Catskills. I rekkin my butt's worth plenny!

 

[barbos]

Russian peace will consists of prosecuting, imprisoning or executing some percentage of the Ukrainian population for another term that doesn’t translate well: war crimes.

Depends on what kind of peace agreement is signed. Those who do not adhere to the terms of agreement may sure be punished.

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Russia has violated every peace agreement with Ukraine that it has signed. Ukraine would be crazy to sign any treaty with Russia that forced it to de-arm and give up defensive arms and strategic locations. Without peace keeping troops and massive amounts of defensive arms; Russia will invade again.

Actually, it's US installed nazis who violated all agreements and Ukraine's constitution. But that was the whole idea, was not it?

 

[barbos]

Russia has violated every peace agreement with Ukraine that it has signed. Ukraine would be crazy to sign any treaty with Russia that forced it to de-arm and give up defensive arms and strategic locations. Without peace keeping troops and massive amounts of defensive arms; Russia will invade again.

Nothing will be forced on Ukraine. That is Trump style. To Zelenskyy - 'Stop war or we don't send supplies'. To Putin - "Stop war or we increase sanctions'. Modi style is diplomacy. He is touch with Putin as well as Zelenskyy. He has consulted European leaders Macron, perhaps Germany too (Foreign Minister Jaishankar will be there on September 10-12. German Foreign Minister Wadephull was in India last week). I think both Russia and Ukraine have had enough. Let us see how it develops.

The only country benefiting from the war is Russia gaining land.

It is not certain that Russia will hold to all land that is under its control. It is your guess and may not necessarily be Putin's plan. Like I said, depends upon the type of peace agreement is signed.

I cannot recall any instance of Russian forces (incl. USSR) that have willingly returned terriority. If they step on it once they consider it theirs for perpituity.

USSR willingly returned Austria after WW2. Also USSR refused to take Bulgaria when they themselves asked to join USSR
Ukraine itself in its official borders is the result of USSR/Russia leaving it. It was bad idea, now we have to fix it.

 

[Crumb]

Hey there! I'm a hillbilly. Born right near the Catskills. I rekkin my butt's worth plenny!

Post proof or retract.

 

[WAB]

Hey there! I'm a hillbilly. Born right near the Catskills. I rekkin my butt's worth plenny!

Post proof or retract.

(_!_)

 

[aupmanyav]

Bwahahaha!!!
You been living in a hole?
Hundreds of thousands of genocidal Russian goons have been forced on Ukraine for almost three years. And it continues today.

What else do you expect in a war? Every attack on Russia will enrage Putin and Russian Commanders. Same for Ukrainian soldiers.
Buddha said violence is not the answer.

I cannot recall any instance of Russian forces (incl. USSR) that have willingly returned terriority. If they step on it once they consider it theirs for perpituity.

I cannot predict what will happen this time. I am not a prophet.

 

[aupmanyav]

A hole? No. Just immersed in Godi media.

What is Godi media? If you mean Modi, then yes, I am a strong Modi supporter like at least 65% of the Indians are.
Ranking of World leaders: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1456852/world-leader-approval-ratings/
https://pro.morningconsult.com also gives 72% for August. Trump; 45%.
Modi has undisputedly been there for years. Modi is a gift of Gods to India.

Modi's approval ranking at DuckDuckGo

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Become so strongly defensive, that Russia won't attack.

Right. Get Bombs, aircrafts, carriers, missiles, conscript all adults below the age of 60, to get the capability to attack Russia from North and South.

 

[bilby]

Modi is a tit.

And you should never, ever, trust any politician who can sustain an approval rating over 50%; The only way to do that is to not support necessary (but unpopular) policies, and that's always a slow-motion disaster for any country.

It also usually implies supporting stupid but popular policies (eg xenophobia and authoritarianism*), which can make the disaster rather less slow.

Democracy should not be allowed to engender crass populism. That's why a strong constitution, and rigid separation of powers (ideally enshrined therein), are essential.




*Authoritarianism is always very popular with the supporters of the Leopards Eating Other People's Faces faction that arises wherever people are well off enough to be scared of petty crime.