Trump’s Dictatorship, what will it actually look like?

[Politesse]

If you hire a Nazi who you know is a Nazi to a major position in your cabinet, you cannot then convincingly say "but I wasn't aware of their platform as such", when that platform is common knowledge readily accesible. Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader. Even if I believed for some reason that Trump is genuinely unaware of the explicitly Christian theocratic project shared by nearly all of his staff, that would be further proof to me of his fundamental inadequacy for the presidency.

 

[TSwizzle]

If you hire a Nazi who you know is a Nazi to a major position in your cabinet, you cannot then convincingly say "but I wasn't aware of their platform as such", when that platform is common knowledge readily accesible. Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader. Even if I believed for some reason that Trump is genuinely unaware of the explicitly Christian theocratic project shared by nearly all of his staff, that would be further proof to me of his fundamental inadequacy for the presidency.

What on earth are you blathering about?

 

[Politesse]

If you hire a Nazi who you know is a Nazi to a major position in your cabinet, you cannot then convincingly say "but I wasn't aware of their platform as such", when that platform is common knowledge readily accesible. Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader. Even if I believed for some reason that Trump is genuinely unaware of the explicitly Christian theocratic project shared by nearly all of his staff, that would be further proof to me of his fundamental inadequacy for the presidency.

What on earth are you blathering about?

Trump pretending he hasn't heard of Project 2025.

 

[TSwizzle]

If you hire a Nazi who you know is a Nazi to a major position in your cabinet, you cannot then convincingly say "but I wasn't aware of their platform as such", when that platform is common knowledge readily accesible. Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader. Even if I believed for some reason that Trump is genuinely unaware of the explicitly Christian theocratic project shared by nearly all of his staff, that would be further proof to me of his fundamental inadequacy for the presidency.

What on earth are you blathering about?

Trump pretending he hasn't heard of Project 2025.

More unhinged TDS nonsense.

 

[ZiprHead]

There's already a thread on this;

So you do believe this Project 2025 fan fiction, but prefer to ignore fan fiction from neocon think tanks where they describe in details how they want to start war with China and Russia?

Trump will be as ineffective this time as he was the last time. He does not want to do all that boring stuff, he wants parades and glory.

Derail.

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump actual SAYS: “I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous"

So... never heard of it, knows nothing about it but knows he disagrees with "some" of it and passes judgment on it.
How can that be?
Oh right, he's just a liar.
He either does or does not know anything about Project 2025 - it can'[t be both.
And since it's a bunch of his guys, his feigned ignorance rings pretty hollow.

Correct me if I am wrong but Project 2025 is not (nor ever has been) the Trump platform. Trump definitely did not write 2025 and AFIK was written up by conservative donors. In any case, its reasonable to assume Trump might actually be telling the truth not in knowing or agreeing with any part or all of it. Nor would Trump even need to pretend to agree with Project 2025 since he is filthy rich himself and not dependent on campaign contributions. Which means Project 2025 has nothing to do with Trump other than the Trump supreme court being more conservative on interpretation of the law. Which might help somehow implement a more conservative platform.

In any case, the POTUS is just the executive branch and the Constitution is still the Constitution despite how it is not adhered to these days. So the POTUS can only go as far as the Constitution will allow.

With our current checks and balances, I don't see how any platform Trump (or anyone else for that matter) proposes in anyway answers the question proposed by the OP.

Okay, your wrong. Here's your correction.

Who is behind Project 2025?​

The plan was created and released by the Heritage Foundation think tank.

Some of the people involved in Project 2025 are former senior administration officials. The project’s director is Paul Dans, who served as chief of staff at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management under Trump. Trump's campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt was featured in one of Project 2025's videos.

John McEntee, a former director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office in the Trump administration, is a senior adviser. McEntee told the conservative news site The Daily Wire earlier this year that Project 2025's team would integrate a lot of its work with the campaign after the summer when Trump would announce his transition team.

A key Trump ally, Russ Vought, who contributed to Project 2025 and is drafting a final pillar of the plan, is also on the Republican National Committee’s platform writing committee.

And Trump lied when he said he didn't know anything about it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Besides Project 2025 as well as how I have already answered the question, there's also HOW Twitler is willing to come to power in the first place. He's willing to lie, create violence, in such a way that inspires a coup which he already took part in. IF the election was extremely close with Biden winning, Trump again would claim things were rigged and there would again be violence.

 

[Elixir]

IF the election was extremely close with Biden winning, Trump again would claim things were rigged and there would again be violence.

Huh?
Trump has ALREADY claimed the ‘24 election is ALREADY rigged, just like he claimed about the 2016 & 2020 elections.
There is no “close”!
IF BIDEN WINS TRUMP WILL TRY TO INCITE VIOLENCE AND CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS WILL TRY TO OVERTURN IT.
Regardless of the margin of his loss.

At this point all the Republican congressmen are kompromatted, and can be effectively terminated at the whim of a mob boss. Sans a blue wave in Congress this nation is well and truly fucked, probably forever.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

IF the election was extremely close with Biden winning, Trump again would claim things were rigged and there would again be violence.

Huh?
Trump has ALREADY claimed the ‘24 election is ALREADY rigged, just like he claimed about the 2016 & 2020 elections.
There is no “close”!
IF BIDEN WINS TRUMP WILL TRY TO INCITE VIOLENCE AND CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS WILL TRY TO OVERTURN IT.
Regardless of the margin of his loss.

We can disagree on this, but it's not worth energy. It's only theoretical since Biden demolishing Trump is no longer a possibility.

 

[Elixir]

We can disagree on this, but it's not worth energy.

True, IMO.

It's only theoretical since Biden demolishing Trump is no longer a possibility.

DISAGREE.
Distant though it may be, it’s still a possibility. And there are lots of 20 yr old wackadoodles still on the loose…
Can you see a Biden vs Vance contest?

 

[Tigers!]

We can disagree on this, but it's not worth energy.

True, IMO.

It's only theoretical since Biden demolishing Trump is no longer a possibility.

DISAGREE.
Distant though it may be, it’s still a possibility. And there are lots of 20 yr old wackadoodles still on the loose…
Can you see a Biden vs Vance contest?

I'd rather not but thanks anyway.

Why can't you lot pick/select/elect/craft/draft/brew/manufacture/build/assemble/create/dig up some half decent candidates who are not raving idiots or are just too frail, stubborn to be suitable for a whole term?

 

[Elixir]

We can disagree on this, but it's not worth energy.

True, IMO.

It's only theoretical since Biden demolishing Trump is no longer a possibility.

DISAGREE.
Distant though it may be, it’s still a possibility. And there are lots of 20 yr old wackadoodles still on the loose…
Can you see a Biden vs Vance contest?

I'd rather not but thanks anyway.

Why can't you lot pick/select/elect/craft/draft/brew/manufacture/build/assemble/create/dig up some half decent candidates who are not raving idiots or are just too frail, stubborn to be suitable for a whole term?

I DO nominate the best people. The very finest people, believe me! It’s the OTHERS who nominate complete douchebags. It’s true. Ask anyone.

 

[Tigers!]

I DO nominate the best people. The very finest people, believe me! It’s the OTHERS who nominate complete douchebags. It’s true. Ask anyone.

I did ask. People speak most highly of your choices.

Though they do have doubts as to the friends you keep.

 

[bilby]

Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader.

Oh, no. Trump doesn't do responsibility. Never has, never will.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Loren Pechtel]

With our current checks and balances, I don't see how any platform Trump (or anyone else for that matter) proposes in anyway answers the question proposed by the OP.

My previous reply got somewhat overtaken by events.

Note the dismissal of the classified documents case on the grounds that special prosecutors are unconstitutional. That's what happens to your supposed "checks"--they mean nothing if they aren't enforced.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Pants on fire!!

The video simply talks about supporting conservative policy, it doesn't identify any specific things.

 

[Politesse]

Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader.

Oh, no. Trump doesn't do responsibility. Never has, never will.

He delegates it. The higher you are in the hierarchy of one of his organizations, the more likely you are to spend some time in jail.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Investigating the known, public political goals of those you appoint to high office is a minimal responsibility of any leader.

Oh, no. Trump doesn't do responsibility. Never has, never will.

He delegates it. The higher you are in the hierarchy of one of his organizations, the more likely you are to spend some time in jail.

Once he has pardon power again only those he wants in jail will be in jail.

 

[thebeave]

J.D. didn't say anything in the clip about banning abortion or defunding SS and MC.

Something seems amiss with this Project 2025 (I admit I haven't done a deep dive into it, though, given that it is 900+ pages long and I have a life).

I came across this earlier in my news feed, though:

Viral Claims About Project 2025 Are Mostly False

Over the last week, there has been growing online discourse surrounding Project 2025, a collection of conservative policy recommendations published by the Heritage Foundation alongside a coalition of other conservative organizations. Heritage has released similar “Mandate for Leadership” reports for decades with the intent of shaping policy in Republican presidential administrations. Project 2025 is not directly affiliated with the GOP or Donald Trump, but it does feature contributions from many former Trump administration officials with close ties to the Republican nominee.

Though the plan was released more than a year ago, it has only recently become a major talking point for Democrats and progressive activists. Even President Joe Biden this week encouraged Americans directly to “Google Project 2025.”

There's an infographic by Robert Reich (somewhat beloved on this forum I've noticed) early in this article that has 31 claims about Project 2025. The article is from The Dispatch. They debunk, confirm and/or clarify each claim. You can read their media bias report here (trigger warning: it is a right of center source):

The Dispatch

Failed Fact Checks​

• None in the Last 5 years

Overall, we rate The Dispatch Right-Center biased based on story selection and editorial positions that moderately favor the right. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact-check record. (D. Van Zandt 3/18/2020) Updated (05/24/2024)

Someone enlighten me as to who I should believe about Project 2025. Is Robert Reich just confused about what's in it? Is he flat out lying? Or maybe that infographic isn't even from him? Or is it a fake? Is there a better source?