Why not just follow Clinton's example and call them ALL deplorables.
Clinton explicitly
didn't do that. She referred to a "basket of deplorables", with whom she was contrasting
the rest of the Republicans - the ones who were calmly ignoring the detrimental effect of those deplorables on their once respectable party.
You appear to have fallen victim to the very disease you are warning about. Physician, heal thyself!
Hillary Clinton said
half of Donald Trump’s supporters belong in a “basket of deplorables”
That is millions of Americans. Millions. Wrap your head around that.
As for fallen victim, see what I was responding to:
I call them Nazis and fascists if they support someone who is clearly calling for a theocracy and they clearly don't care about that.
SO...................... here is a little exercise for you. What are YOU going to say if swing voters or independents decide to favor Trump in November. Will THEY all be Nazis in your eyes????????
That won’t happen, but if it did, then they will have to wear the shoe that fits them.
In short, my question about swing voters and independents would STILL be regarded as Nazis if they voted for Trump.
So, it appears, some on here NOW would go as far as to consider ALL Trump voters deplorable, because.........
then they will have to wear the shoe that fits them.
As you can see under my username, I am a liberal, I have also repeatedly said on here I have no use for the MAGA types, but my original argument was quite clear.........
The Trump base are deplorable. They are also self deluded thanks to decades of right wing propaganda. They hate America, they dream of tyranny.
At this point the conservatives who actually exist have to choose whether to vote for the guy who orchestrated Jan 6th, tried to get the Ukrainian President to announce a fake investigation into Biden, mocked the brutal attack of Pelosi's husband, which was aimed for Pelosi herself, helped convince an unknown number of people to die of Covid.
Doesn't matter what you call it, I am finding hard to look those people in the eye.
It is much less simple than that. There are people I genuinely love, genuinely like and genuinely respect who have and almost certainly will vote for Trump again. I do not like, admire or respect that choice but I understand that they have some genuine points:
Immigration is a good thing and a bad thing. From my personal knowledge, increasing the non-English speaking population at schools drains schools budgets. It just does. People who have lived here for years or generations can be very upset about resources being taken from their kids and used for someone else’s kids. This is true whenever school budgets get tight and programming and staffing gets cut—regardless of the reasons. Raising property taxes ( a major source of public school funding in the US) is also something that causes problems—very real problems for both property owners and renters. Two of the hardest things for people to accept are anything that ( they believe) harms their children or pinches their pocketbooks too hard. For people on fixed incomes, it is a serious issue and can push them out of their homes. The loss can be very substantial and can push people off of homes and farms that have passed through the generations. Plus change is hard and many people really struggle with change.
Because immigrants, undocumented and otherwise, are willing to work for less money and for worse work conditions, wages are artificially suppressed, and work conditions do not improve —and that plays out throughout the economy.
Another issue is that people in a particular country, region, state, city or town or neighborhood all get along to the extent that they agree on ‘how things are -and how they are done’ and ‘how things should be.’ We all drive on a certain side of the road because laws established which side was correct but we ‘all know’ that one brings a casserole to a new family or to someone who is sick or who experiences loss. Except that’s not always the custom everywhere and there is often an expectation that certain people will do X and certain people will do Y and if someone doesn’t do that : it’s wrong! Crazy, rude, selfish, useless, etc. we all know that families have their certain ways and when someone joins the family, there is an adjustment—for everyone. How well that happens and is accepted depends upon the differences in everyone’s individual and collective expectations and how those expectations are met. This same pattern is reflected in communities of every size and shape and strata and composition.
When areas, communities, groups, families, individuals have scant resources, people are more stressed and less accepting.
I’m in my 60’s and can tell you—as anyone near my age will agree, in many respects the world —and society—looks vastly different than it did in my youth or even 20 years ago. In my childhood, bald eagles were nearly extinct —and we discontinued using DDT. Now, I see eagles and many other types of wildlife very frequently, just as one example.
When I was in high school in the 1970’s, of course I had some classmates who were gay, but many flew under the radar and almost all were quietly accepted as long as it wasn’t obvious. For those who could not hide, things were rough. Although I was fairly stupid and naive back then, of course there were transgender and bisexual and ACE individuals—it just wasn’t recognized. My community was very homogeneous—and differences stood out and often were not acceptable. Drove me insane at the time, even though I was related to a large portion of my county, so I was ver much not different. Gender roles were more rigid and I was pretty unhappy with the expectations of my community and occasionally family, although I was fortunate that both my parents strongly supported their daughters’ academic pursuits.
This was also a time when society changed a lot. This upheaval still existed in the 70’s.
Change is very hard, and again, for individuals and groups who are struggling or who have lost ground,—real or perceived— it’s often much harder.
And it is always always always easier to look at the source of difficulty as being someone else’s fault.
Some people and some Indy dials accept others more easily than others. Just as some people are more adventurous in their food choices or music or dress, to take it to a more trivial area. Some people rely very heavily on routine. Not everyone but if routine is important to you, disruptions are harder.
Throw in a profit and/or power motive, and it’s easy to see how those differences are exploited.
Even here, on this board, I read very frequently some fairly ignorant and unfair stereotypes about small towns, rural areas, geographic regions. The fact that many people regard people like me who have spent most of their lives in small towns surrounded by farm lands as backward, ignorant bigots who are deplorable. And of course by some I’m regarded as a leftist.
The thing is: people are people are people. We tend to think in stereotypes as a way of screening out what we think is extraneous information. It’s just easier to think if redheads as fiery, blondes as dumb, black people as dumb, lazy and criminal, women can’t do math or science and don’t understand computers, men don’t or should not cry and know how to fix things or should just as women should know how to cook. It’s ridiculous. Everyone speaks the same language. And if they don’t, why not?? But it’s being human.
We as humans are at an inflection point or two. We need to grow abd become more understanding and accepting that the way things have always been is changing g and things should work more/better for everyone, not just the people who look like you or the people for whom things have always been good.
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Sure, I'm laughing because humor is the best medicine, which is one of the reasons I've become very fond of Kamala Harris. She has a wonderful sense of humor, while not once have I heard her opponent laugh.
