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Another example of the depravity of MAGA that Trump brings out

RVonse is falling for the lies of right-wing news platforms, which have been cultivating racism and bogus culture wars for decades. They have doing this to distract tens of millions of people from voting in their own interest, while they fleece those very same people. LBJ described the phenomenon this way:
Yes it must be frustrating when all those people will not vote the way their betters tell them too.
How the fuck do you come to that conclusion from, "stop falling for easily debunked bullshit"?

Also, that's not the zinger of an argument as most things are objectively better than MAGAtards, including child molesters and people who talk in theatres. In fact, some MAGAtards are indistinguishable to child molesters (Gaetz) and people who talk in theatres (Boebert).
 
RVonse is falling for the lies of right-wing news platforms, which have been cultivating racism and bogus culture wars for decades. They have doing this to distract tens of millions of people from voting in their own interest, while they fleece those very same people. LBJ described the phenomenon this way:
Yes it must be frustrating when all those people will not vote the way their betters tell them too.
How the fuck do you come to that conclusion from, "stop falling for easily debunked bullshit"?

Also, that's not the zinger of an argument as most things are objectively better than MAGAtards, including child molesters and people who talk in theatres. In fact, some MAGAtards are indistinguishable to child molesters (Gaetz) and people who talk in theatres (Boebert).
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.
 
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.
In other news, some turkeys really enjoy Christmas. :rolleyesa:
 
RVonse is falling for the lies of right-wing news platforms, which have been cultivating racism and bogus culture wars for decades. They have doing this to distract tens of millions of people from voting in their own interest, while they fleece those very same people. LBJ described the phenomenon this way:
Yes it must be frustrating when all those people will not vote the way their betters tell them too.
How the fuck do you come to that conclusion from, "stop falling for easily debunked bullshit"?

Also, that's not the zinger of an argument as most things are objectively better than MAGAtards, including child molesters and people who talk in theatres. In fact, some MAGAtards are indistinguishable to child molesters (Gaetz) and people who talk in theatres (Boebert).
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.
What it actually means is that that group of people don't know what is in their own interest. For instance, if they understood who benefits and who is disadvantaged by a certain legislation, and it is them that loses and some big businesses that benefit, then why do they support the adherents of that legislation? As Bilby implied, it is like turkeys being in support of being eaten by humans.
 
RVonse is falling for the lies of right-wing news platforms, which have been cultivating racism and bogus culture wars for decades. They have doing this to distract tens of millions of people from voting in their own interest, while they fleece those very same people. LBJ described the phenomenon this way:
Yes it must be frustrating when all those people will not vote the way their betters tell them too.
How the fuck do you come to that conclusion from, "stop falling for easily debunked bullshit"?

Also, that's not the zinger of an argument as most things are objectively better than MAGAtards, including child molesters and people who talk in theatres. In fact, some MAGAtards are indistinguishable to child molesters (Gaetz) and people who talk in theatres (Boebert).
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.
Sure, that was LBJ’s point. Since the true interest of MAGGOTS is keeping black people down (and women and gays and on and on) then they are perfectly OK to be fleeced by the con artist who is promising to put down the Others that the MAGGOTS hate and fear.
 
RVonse is falling for the lies of right-wing news platforms, which have been cultivating racism and bogus culture wars for decades. They have doing this to distract tens of millions of people from voting in their own interest, while they fleece those very same people. LBJ described the phenomenon this way:
Yes it must be frustrating when all those people will not vote the way their betters tell them too.
How the fuck do you come to that conclusion from, "stop falling for easily debunked bullshit"?

Also, that's not the zinger of an argument as most things are objectively better than MAGAtards, including child molesters and people who talk in theatres. In fact, some MAGAtards are indistinguishable to child molesters (Gaetz) and people who talk in theatres (Boebert).
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.
On the contrary, it is perfectly accurate to say, “The people you are voting for will not ever deliver the things you say you ask for.”

It is you, Tiger, who is assuming that the interests we say they are voting against are not clearly articulated, by them, as their interests.


Let me help you with that:

They have been doing this to distract tens of millions of people from voting in their own declared interest, while they fleece those very same people.
 
The next generation almost always grows up speaking English no matter what the parents speak or don't speak.
Yeah, and what kinda name is “Vonse”, anyhow?
Sounds vaguely Irish or Scottish, but I think it’s Pakistani. There are a lot of them in Haiti. And Ohio. Eating dogs.
Anyhow, we have no way of knowing if he’s one of them.
Might not even be a name. My understanding is that my last name is a corruption of the original, which is why there's something like only 100-200 of us in the country.
 
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.

The only way that statement works is if (insert group here) is deliberately lying about their objectives and interest when they state them - leaving you with no idea what their interests are. And in that case, you're damn right I'm their betters. You are as well for that matter. Because in any other scenario that would constitute as criminal fraud.
 
When someone tells that a certain group of people (insert said group here) are voting against their own interests that tells that the speaker invariably actually has no idea what the own interest of the said group in question might be.

The only way that statement works is if (insert group here) is deliberately lying about their objectives and interest when they state them - leaving you with no idea what their interests are. And in that case, you're damn right I'm their betters. You are as well for that matter. Because in any other scenario that would constitute as criminal fraud.
I recall that when certain people were asked if the individual aspects of the ACA were desired they said yes but when asked if they supported “Obamacare” they said no. Thats an example of people being against their own interests.
 
these are people who are here legally, who escaped high levels of violence and unrest in their country, who have just as much right to be here as any other legal immigrant
... including Trump's prostitute-wife.
You really do not like Melania do you?
"Like" is a complex word in the context.

Melania is a high end hooker. She reached the top of her profession. She bagged a billionaire and planted an anchor baby in the money.
Tops in her field.

Props where they're due.
Tom
Didn't someone write a book about this before the '16 election arguing she was a call girl or hooker when back home. Trump threaten to sue but then backed down when the author said he or she had airtight proof the claim was true.
 
The volume and nature of the Hurricane Hellene disinformation being spread by the GOP is rather depraved.
 
According musk/twitter/GOP/blogs/and shit I’ve seen on Facebook the government created and steered the storm into Trump country and is now refusing to provide relief in favor of helping illegals. Even worse, Biden has directed FEMA to steal aid being provided locally. Some sick shit being spread.
 
Did the latest conversation between Rosanne Barr and Tucker Carlson make it into this thread?
 
I'm trying to quote a little bit of the link from my last post. The following quotes are just a taste of the article linked in my previous post. It includes videos to back up the claims. The man is a deranged, and senile. Most of us realize this, but perhaps the few wh o are in denial might learn something new about their orange Jesus.

Former President Donald J. Trump vividly recounted how the audience at his climactic debate with Vice President Kamala Harris was on his side. Except that there was no audience. The debate was held in an empty hall. No one “went crazy,” as Mr. Trump put it, because no one was there.

Anyone can misremember, of course. But the debate had been just a week earlier and a fairly memorable moment. And it was hardly the only time Mr. Trump has seemed confused, forgetful, incoherent or disconnected from reality lately. In fact, it happens so often these days that it no longer even generates much attention.

He rambles, he repeats himself, he roams from thought to thought — some of them hard to understand, some of them unfinished, some of them factually fantastical. He voices outlandish claims that seem to be made up out of whole cloth. He digresses into bizarre tangents about golf, about sharks, about his own “beautiful” body. He relishes “a great day in Louisiana” after spending the day in Georgia. He expresses fear that North Korea is “trying to kill me”when he presumably means Iran. As late as last month, Mr. Trump was still speaking as if he were running against President Biden, five weeks after his withdrawal from the race.



With Mr. Biden out, Mr. Trump, at 78, is now the oldest major party nominee for president in history and would be the oldest president ever if he wins and finishes another term at 82. A review of Mr. Trump’s rallies, interviews, statements and social media posts finds signs of change since he first took the political stage in 2015. He has always been discursive and has often been untethered to truth, but with the passage of time his speeches have grown darker, harsher, longer, angrier, less focused, more profane and increasingly fixated on the past.

According to a computer analysis by The New York Times, Mr. Trump’s rally speeches now last an average of 82 minutes, compared with 45 minutes in 2016. Proportionately, he uses 13 percent more all-or-nothing terms like “always” and “never” than he did eight years ago, which some experts consider a sign of advancing age.

Similarly, he uses 32 percent more negative words than positive words now, compared with 21 percent in 2016, which can be another indicator of cognitive change. And he uses swearwords 69 percent more often than he did when he first ran, a trend that could reflect what experts call disinhibition. (A study by Stat, a health care news outlet, produced similar findings.)

Mr. Trump frequently reaches to the past for his frame of reference, often to the 1980s and 1990s, when he was in his tabloid-fueled heyday. He cites fictional characters from that era like Hannibal Lecter from “Silence of the Lip” (he meant “Silence of the Lambs”), asks “where’s Johnny Carson, bring back Johnny” (who died in 2005) and ruminates on how attractive Cary Grant was (“the most handsome man”). He asks supporters whether they remember the landing in New York of Charles Lindbergh, who actually landed in Paris and long before Mr. Trump was born.

He seems confused about modern technology, suggesting that “most people don’t have any idea what the hell a phone app is” in a country where 96 percent of people own a smartphone. If sometimes he seems stuck in the 1990s, there are moments when he pines for the 1890s, holding out that decade as the halcyon period of American history and William McKinley as his model president because of his support for tariffs.



And he heads off into rhetorical cul-de-sacs. “So we built a thing called the Panama Canal,” he told the conservative host Tucker Carlson last year. “We lost 35,000 people to the mosquito, you know, malaria. We lost 35,000 people building — we lost 35,000 people because of the mosquito. Vicious. They had to build under nets. It was one of the true great wonders of the world. As he said, ‘One of the nine wonders of the world.’ No, no, it was one of the seven. It just happened a little while ago. You know, he says, ‘Nine wonders of the world.’ You could make nine wonders. He would’ve been better off if he stuck with the nine and just said, ‘Yeah, I think it’s nine.’”


While elements of this are familiar, some who have known him for years say they notice a change. “He’s not competing at the level he was competing at eight years ago, no question about it,” said Anthony Scaramucci, a former Trump ally who has endorsed Ms. Harris. “He’s lost a step. He’s lost an ability to put powerful sentences together.”

“You can like Trump or hate Trump, but he’s been a very effective communicator,” Mr. Scaramucci continued. But now, he added, “the word salad buffet on the Trump campaign is being offered at a discount. You can eat all you can eat, but it’s at a discount.”

Sarah Matthews, who was Mr. Trump’s deputy press secretary until breaking with him over the Jan. 6, 2021, attack, said the former president had lost his fastball.

“I don’t think anyone would ever say that Trump is the most polished speaker, but his more recent speeches do seem to be more incoherent, and he’s rambling even more so and he’s had some pretty noticeable moments of confusion,” she said. “When he was running against Biden, maybe it didn’t stand out as much.”

Mr. Trump dismisses any concerns and insists that he has passed cognitive tests. “I go for two hours without teleprompters, and if I say one word slightly out, they say, ‘He’s cognitively impaired,’” he complained at a recent rally. He calls his meandering style “the weave” and asserts that it is an intentional and “brilliant” communication strategy.
 
If he keeps using just enough meth, as he obviously does, he may be able to appear close to normal. Well, not meth exactly but definitely amphetamines of some kind.
 
If he keeps using just enough meth, as he obviously does, he may be able to appear close to normal. Well, not meth exactly but definitely amphetamines of some kind.
I doubt he uses drugs, but he needs some drugs for his mental illnesses. Sadly, dementia can't be cured with drugs and it's obvious he's in the early stages of dementia, while also suffering from other forms of mental illness. That's my perspective as a nurse who cared for people with dementia as well as people with a variety of mental illnesses, which I prefer to call brain disorders. Someone so sick should have never been permitted to run for president, but the damn Republicans in the Senate refused to remove him from office when he was impeached. I blame them for this, even more than I blame a mentally deranged person who can't help what he is. Again, I'm viewing this from a medical perspective and not from my personal feelings about this dangerous man.
 
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