Breakdown In Civil Order

[Gospel]

The situation mirrors a broader American tendency rather than being unique to any one administration. It's similar to an individual who neglects regular housekeeping, yet haphazardly tidies up when expecting visitors, only to revert to the usual disarray after the guests depart. Only in this case, we're all members of the household & rather than banding together to clean up, we point fingers at each other while pretend this mess doesn't belong to all of us.

 

[Politesse]

I note that the only people I ever see literally cleaning up the streets are:

1. Underpaid city employees
2. Friendly senior citizens out for a walk with one of those grabby sticks
2. The homeless population

Everyone else just waits for cleaning to happen "somehow", and complains if it doesn't.

What Newsom is doing here isn't actually "cleaning" in the classic sense of a mop and bucket. Instead, he is embarrassed by the very existence of some of his citizens, and is detaining and removing them without their consent so his dictator friends won't see that he hasn't got control of his population. They'd have to be pretty stupid politicians and economists to fall for it, though.

 

[TSwizzle]

I do remember insufferable prick Newsom picking up trash at the L.A. rail site. He apologized for saying "gangs" were looting the rail cars.

Massive fire under the i-10 in Los Angeles on Newsom's watch;

The massive fire that has shut down a crucial section of the 10 Freeway in downtown Los Angeles was caused by arson, officials said Monday as they raced to assess the extent of the damage and determine how long it would take to reopen. The fire began under the overpass at Alameda Street early Saturday morning, fueled by wood pallets stored there. Although the exact cause of the fire has not been revealed, “there was [malicious] intent,” Newsom said at a news conference Monday afternoon. In addition to pallets, sanitizer accumulated during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic was stored under the overpass and helped fuel the flames, according to sources familiar with the probe who were not authorized to discuss details of the investigation. Timothy Garrison, 55, was sleeping behind a nearby Shell gas station near the overpass when he heard explosions, he said Monday morning as he sat against a wall near 14th and Elwood streets, around the corner from the site of the fire. When he peeked out of his makeshift tent made of plastic trash bags, he saw giant flames flickering out of the overpass. He knew of some people who lived underneath the freeway but said he had not seen them. (L.A. Mayor)Bass said 16 people were living in the encampment, and all had been moved into hotels and motels. A row of blue tarps, trailers and wooden shacks sat along 14th Street on Monday among piles of wood from pallets and metal debris. CalFire officials said they were taking all elements into consideration in their investigation, including the presence of homeless people in the area. But on Monday afternoon, Bass said there was “no reason to assume the reason this fire happened was because there were unhoused individuals nearby.”
Workers in the area said firefighters frequently come to put out fires caused by people living on the streets. It’s why Antolín Padilla, 34, installed fire extinguishers at the entrances of his business Jaz Pallets, which sits along the railroad tracks near Santa Clara Street. He and another pallet yard owner on 14th Street agreed to enforce a “no camping zone” around their businesses, often telling people to camp elsewhere, after a fire spread to the wall of Padilla’s pallet yard a few months ago.

LA Times

More than likely this fire was caused by a "homeless" person lighting a fire, I would be surprised if it wasn't.

Newsom 2024!

 

[TV and credit cards]

I note that the only people I ever see literally cleaning up the streets are:

1. Underpaid city employees
2. Friendly senior citizens out for a walk with one of those grabby sticks
2. The homeless population

Everyone else just waits for cleaning to happen "somehow", and complains if it doesn't.

What Newsom is doing here isn't actually "cleaning" in the classic sense of a mop and bucket. Instead, he is embarrassed by the very existence of some of his citizens, and is detaining and removing them without their consent so his dictator friends won't see that he hasn't got control of his population. They'd have to be pretty stupid politicians and economists to fall for it, though.

May be in part for security reasons. It would be much easier for an assassin to hide in the clutter of the homeless.

 

[TSwizzle]

I note that the only people I ever see literally cleaning up the streets are:

1. Underpaid city employees
2. Friendly senior citizens out for a walk with one of those grabby sticks
2. The homeless population

Everyone else just waits for cleaning to happen "somehow", and complains if it doesn't.

That is a weird way to look at it. Underpaid city employees? Not hardly. Senior citizens have time on their hands and need a hobby, if that's their hobby, so what? But the weirdest one is that the "homeless population" clean up the streets? Hell naw!! They are the ones that cause the most filth and squalor in the streets. And everyone else, the people with jobs, sometimes more than one job are too busy working and paying taxes to clean up other people's shit.

What Newsom is doing here isn't actually "cleaning" in the classic sense of a mop and bucket. Instead, he is embarrassed by the very existence of some of his citizens, and is detaining and removing them without their consent so his dictator friends won't see that he hasn't got control of his population. They'd have to be pretty stupid politicians and economists to fall for it, though.

That's what makes Newsom and Brandon such morons.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Here we go again. Bundy arrest warrant.

....
A judge in Idaho has issued a $250,000 arrest warrant for Ammon Bundy, the anti-government activist, after he repeatedly failed to show up in court.

The 48-year-old son of the controversial Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and organiser of a takeover of an Oregon wildlife reserve that left one of his supporters dead, fell foul of the court after not attending hearings in relation to a $52.5m defamation ruling against him and his political organisation.
.....

Idaho judge issues new arrest warrant for far-right activist Ammon Bundy

Anti-government activist fell foul of court after not attending hearings in relation to $52.5m defamation ruling against him

www.yahoo.com

 

[Politesse]

But the weirdest one is that the "homeless population" clean up the streets? Hell naw!!

I realize you have limited experience with urban life, but you yourself posted a Tiktok video just a few days ago showing one of the downtown volunteers pushing a broom along, cleaning up the area. Lots of homeless folks are engaged actively in community cleanup. You'd realize this if you ever chatted with any homeless folks, as it's not unusual at all to find someone who either does some work for/with the city and various local organization, or who collects and sorts recyclables for part of their income.

 

[TSwizzle]

But the weirdest one is that the "homeless population" clean up the streets? Hell naw!!

I realize you have limited experience with urban life, but you yourself posted a Tiktok video just a few days ago showing one of the downtown volunteers pushing a broom along, cleaning up the area. Lots of homeless folks are engaged actively in community cleanup. You'd realize this if you ever chatted with any homeless folks, as it's not unusual at all to find someone who either does some work for/with the city and various local organization, or who collects and sorts recyclables for part of their income.

Are you havin' a laugh?



What is it that the "homeless" are cleaning up and where did the stuff they are cleaning up come from? Did the shit fall out the sky? Did the trash cans on the street expel their contents onto the sidewalk spontaneously? Why do the "homeless" pick up recyclables but leave the syringes?

 

[Emily Lake]

The situation mirrors a broader American tendency rather than being unique to any one administration. It's similar to an individual who neglects regular housekeeping, yet haphazardly tidies up when expecting visitors, only to revert to the usual disarray after the guests depart. Only in this case, we're all members of the household & rather than banding together to clean up, we point fingers at each other while pretend this mess doesn't belong to all of us.

Hey, don't you talk about my spousal unit that way!

Only half joking, though I get where you're coming from. The ADHD is a problem for keeping our house in order.

 

[steve_bank]

Close to home. This one right outside my building front door.

Seattle Police investigate shooting in Pioneer Square, 1 injured

Police are investigating a shooting that left a man injured in Seattle’s Pioneer Square neighborhood on Monday.

www.fox13seattle.com

According to the Seattle Police Department (SPD) officers were notified by the fire department that they were treating a victim for a gunshot wound near the corner of 6th Ave. and Yesler Way at around 1:45 a.m.

 

[ZiprHead]

I can top that. Our next door neighbor was shot. The shooter did so from my front lawn twenty feet from where I was sleeping.

 

[Politesse]

My ex wife caught a stray bullet in the side of her house last year; neighbor was cleaning his gun and it "accidentally went off". He is, in my opinion, very bad at cleaning guns. Luckily the bullet embedded itself in the brick rather than going through drywall or glass.

 

[Elixir]

The terrifying reality of life on San Francisco's drug-ravaged streets has been laid bare by one life-long resident who filmed her walk to work through scenes that have made the city an international symbol for squalor and despair. Tiktoker 'Freqmeek' captured the pre-dawn horror as she gingerly picked her way through dozens of desperate addicts in the city's Tenderloin district. Some are hunched against the cold while others are too intoxicated to care as cars and buses try to steer a path through unconscious addicts sprawled across the road for hundreds of yards. 'The anxiety we experience just traveling to work daily in the Tenderloin is unbelievable,' she wrote. 'There are so many concerns and protections in place for drug users and homeless people but what about the working class that have to pray that they make it to and from work in this environment. Robberies are up 14 percent so far this year in the Golden Gate City where mayor London Breed last month demanded cuts of 18 percent from next year's police budget. Reported deaths from drug overdoses reached 620 in the first nine months of the year, according to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, up from 540 for the same period in 2020. And the city stands to lose $200 million a year in revenue through its business exodus - which has seen major hotels and retailers flee the city center.

Daily Mail

It sounds a delightful city to visit, NOT.

Newsom 2024!!

I have not spent a lot of time in SF since the 90s. But I lived there for years - in neighborhoods from downtown to the Avenues, from the marina to the Fillmore, the Haight Ashbury to Pacific Heights. Even one place in the Castro district, which was “the gay area” back then.
I have never felt unsafe walking alone after midnight in any of those places.
WHAT CHANGED?

I suspect that what really changed was the “news” to which Swiz and others here have become addicted, generated mostly out of whole cloth, judiciously decorated with little sequins of inequitable treatment of white males by “others”.
I still have family in the area, and none of them are as tortured by the situation as badly as is our snowflake from Santa Monica. Go figure.

 

[Elixir]

I can top that. Our next door neighbor was shot. The shooter did so from my front lawn twenty feet from where I was sleeping.

My wife came within a couple of feet of getting shot with a 30-30 (that would hurt).
A 91year old man, long term employee of the neighboring ranch, was sighting his rifle on a makeshift range he had set up, that had him shooting across our access road at the top of a blind hill. Mrs. Elixir may well have been hit if she had been going a couple mph faster; the guy was pretty deaf and had been loosing rounds without ear protection for god-knows-how-long that day, and probably wouldn’t have heard a freight train passing by.
Sweet old guy - he helped us out a few times before he almost accidentally killed her. I won’t lie; I feel a little safer since he died!
OTOH, the 12 and 14 year old sons of the rancher were (are) gun enthusiasts and I never had a qualm: they were very overtly and meticulously careful, at least at that age.

 

[TSwizzle]

Another patient of the outdoor psychiatric ward of Los Angeles;

An armed suspect is wanted for vandalizing approximately 30 vehicles in Koreatown. According to the Los Angeles Police Department, the vandalism occurred on Monday between noon and 3 p.m. in the area of 4th Street to 7th Street and Westmoreland Boulevard to Virgil Avenue. Witnesses say that the man was bashing in windows and denting the bodies of the vehicles with a yellow crowbar.

News

Four fatal shootings that occurred in the Los Angeles area this week -- including the unprovoked killings of three men who were all experiencing homelessness -- have been linked to one suspect, police said. The suspect -- identified as Jerrid Joseph Powell, 33 -- was arrested in the killings of the three unhoused men, who were shot while sleeping alone on a sidewalk or an alley in Los Angeles, police said Saturday. Powell was already in custody for another homicide that occurred in Los Angeles County this week involving a follow-home robbery, police said. The serial killings spanned four days -- from Sunday to Wednesday. The suspect was taken into custody in connection with the robbery-homicide on Thursday, officials said.

News

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass was elected on promises to make a big dent quickly in the city's homelessness crisis, but almost a year later in office, her costly plan has put only 255 of the city's 46,000 homeless into permanent housing. "No, I am not satisfied with those numbers," Bass told the I-Team. Shortly after taking office in December 2022, the mayor announced her "Inside Safe" program, which placed homeless people temporarily into motels with the goal of getting them permanent housing and services to build lives off the streets, with resources for substance abuse and mental health counseling.

News

A sorry state of affairs for the "fifth largest economy in the world" (TM Gavin Newsom)

 

[bilby]

"Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain."

- Henry Ford

 

[TomC]

A sorry state of affairs for the "fifth largest economy in the world" (TM Gavin Newsom)

In a huge and wealthy place like California, income disparity is obviously the real problem.

I've never even visited California, I'm not claiming to know. But if California has that much money and still can't take adequate care of the homeless people living there?

What is the problem with you people? Blaming it on a politician you don't like isn't particularly brilliant.

I'd consider saying "Go back to where you came from!" But us liberals don't don't do that...
Tom

 

[Jarhyn]

A sorry state of affairs for the "fifth largest economy in the world" (TM Gavin Newsom)

In a huge and wealthy place like California, income disparity is obviously the real problem.

I've never even visited California, I'm not claiming to know. But if California has that much money and still can't take adequate care of the homeless people living there?

What is the problem with you people? Blaming it on a politician you don't like isn't particularly brilliant.

I'd consider saying "Go back to where you came from!" But us liberals don't don't do that...
Tom

[The complainer] blames it on a politician because the politician proposes in some respects using [the complainer's] money to fix [the complainer's] problems in a way [the complainer] doesn't like, and it's not really about the complaint so much as [the complainer's] money. Of course part of it has to do with the fact that [the complainer's] real problem is is the fact that the politician is ostensibly liberal and doesn't overtly hate poor people and doesn't seek to punish them for being poor.

Why tolerate politicians solving expensive problems when you can cheaply make the problem much worse for someone else?

 

[TSwizzle]

Newsom's California, "the fifth largest economy in the word"!!

San Francisco is facing its deadliest year ever for drug overdoses, a trend blamed on the surge of powerful synthetic fentanyl in the US’s illicit drug supply. In the first nine months of 2023, the northern California city saw 692 people die of overdoses, more than in the entire year of 2022, according to new data reported by the city’s medical examiner. The city is on track to see more than 800 deaths this year, topping its highest year ever, 2020, when it saw 720. August was the deadliest month on record – with an overdose death every nine hours. “It’s going to be an almost 25% increase over last year – that’s crazy and unfortunate,” said Dr Daniel Ciccarone, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco, who specializes in addiction medicine. “California has now surpassed the national average and it’s becoming the single most important place for overdose intervention in terms of sheer numbers,” said Joseph Friedman, an addiction researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Teh Gruaniad

 

[Politesse]

Newsom's California, "the fifth largest economy in the word"!!

San Francisco is facing its deadliest year ever for drug overdoses, a trend blamed on the surge of powerful synthetic fentanyl in the US’s illicit drug supply. In the first nine months of 2023, the northern California city saw 692 people die of overdoses, more than in the entire year of 2022, according to new data reported by the city’s medical examiner. The city is on track to see more than 800 deaths this year, topping its highest year ever, 2020, when it saw 720. August was the deadliest month on record – with an overdose death every nine hours. “It’s going to be an almost 25% increase over last year – that’s crazy and unfortunate,” said Dr Daniel Ciccarone, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco, who specializes in addiction medicine. “California has now surpassed the national average and it’s becoming the single most important place for overdose intervention in terms of sheer numbers,” said Joseph Friedman, an addiction researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Teh Gruaniad

And somehow the only state with drug addiction problems.