Breakdown In Civil Order

[Politesse]

It was a rhetorical question but it gives you an in for your snark.

You believe it was a rhetorical question. It was a rhetorical question the same way "why is the sky blue?" is a rhetorical question.

 

[TSwizzle]

It was a rhetorical question but it gives you an in for your snark.

You believe it was a rhetorical question. It was a rhetorical question the same way "why is the sky blue?" is a rhetorical question.

ffs, take a day off.

 

[Politesse]

It's just the mass detainment of three thousand American citizens who have committed no crime and theft of their property, why don't liberals have more of a sense of humor?

I don't do days off.

 

[bilby]

It was a rhetorical question the same way "why is the sky blue?" is a rhetorical question

Rayleigh scattering of sunlight by Nitrogen and Oxygen molecules, whose dimensions are ideal for scattering electromagnetic radiation at the red end of the visible light spectrum, such that mostly it is the blue and violet end of the spectrum that reaches the ground, and hence our eyes. The incident sunlight at the red end of the spectrum is preferentially guided 'around' the edges of the planet by this mechanism, which is why both sunrises/sunsets, and the Moon during a total lunar eclipse, appear red.

 

[Politesse]

Imagine putting a $5/gallon tax on gas and diesel to fund the efforts to eliminate homelessness. How far do you suppose that would get with people like TSwizzle?
Tom

So poorly, that what Newsom did instead was to fund a massive anti-homelessness measure by gutting county mental health services. A more clear cut instance of robbing one Peter to pay another Peter could scarcely be conceived.

 

[Politesse]

It was a rhetorical question the same way "why is the sky blue?" is a rhetorical question

Rayleigh scattering of sunlight by Nitrogen and Oxygen molecules, whose dimensions are ideal for scattering electromagnetic radiation at the red end of the visible light spectrum, such that mostly it is the blue and violet end of the spectrum that reaches the ground, and hence our eyes. The incident sunlight at the red end of the spectrum is preferentially guided 'around' the edges of the planet by this mechanism, which is why both sunrises/sunsets, and the Moon during a total lunar eclipse, appear red.

Correct. And homeless people are a complex and heterogeneous group, but no one thinks the sidewalk is their forever home. These encampments are routinely raided and harassed, and the people who live in them live difficult lives for a host of reasons. Most are trying earnestly to get out, but a person still needs somewhere to sleep at night if they do not have a home. Most of the encampments do not have much of a "permanent population", though there is some regularity to life in an encampment. There has to be, that's how humans operate and how the police keep the situation under dubious control.

 

[TSwizzle]

Most are trying earnestly to get out,
but a person still needs somewhere to sleep at night if they do not have a home. Most of the encampments do not have much of a "permanent population", though there is some regularity to life in an encampment. There has to be, that's how humans operate and how the police keep the situation under dubious control.

They need to go into the shelters and the sidewalks cleared. Why you want to have these people live in these miserable conditions is beyond me.

 

[Politesse]

Most are trying earnestly to get out,
but a person still needs somewhere to sleep at night if they do not have a home. Most of the encampments do not have much of a "permanent population", though there is some regularity to life in an encampment. There has to be, that's how humans operate and how the police keep the situation under dubious control.

They need to go into the shelters and the sidewalks cleared. Why you want to have these people live in these miserable conditions is beyond me.

I want people to have homes, dude. Not jail cells. If there were enough shelters, we wouldn't have encampments, but shelters are not a good end goal either. Have you ever spent time in one? Can you imagine living the rest of your life there? Shelters are a start, and we should certainly building them, more and better, but a homeless American is in need of more than just a shelter for tomorrow night. The United States has, in failing to meaningfully regulate the housing market or otherwise prevent it from becoming a casino, failed to provide sufficient housing for all of its citizens on a catastrophic scale. Your solutions aren't solutions, because they do not address the problem.

 

[TSwizzle]

I want people to have homes, dude.

And I want to live in Beverly Hills. You sound like a toddler having a tantrum, dude.

Not jail cells.

Unlikely any of them will end up in jail.

If there were enough shelters, we wouldn't have encampments, but shelters are not a good end goal either. Have you ever spent time in one?

Living in a tent on the sidewalk is not a good end goal.

Can you imagine living the rest of your life there? Shelters are a start, and we should certainly building them, more and better, but a homeless American is in need of more than just a shelter for tomorrow night. The United States has, in failing to meaningfully regulate the housing market or otherwise prevent it from becoming a casino, failed to provide sufficient housing for all of its citizens on a catastrophic scale. Your solutions aren't solutions, because they do not address the problem.

Do you think that allowing several million “migrants” into the country helps the housing situation?

 

[Shadowy Man]

It was a rhetorical question the same way "why is the sky blue?" is a rhetorical question

Rayleigh scattering of sunlight by Nitrogen and Oxygen molecules, whose dimensions are ideal for scattering electromagnetic radiation at the red end of the visible light spectrum, such that mostly it is the blue and violet end of the spectrum that reaches the ground, and hence our eyes. The incident sunlight at the red end of the spectrum is preferentially guided 'around' the edges of the planet by this mechanism, which is why both sunrises/sunsets, and the Moon during a total lunar eclipse, appear red.

Correct.

yikes!!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The encampments still need to go no matter what.

To the ovens, perhaps?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And, what are these "other arrangements"?

Go use the shelters and figure it out for themselves.

In other words you don't care about actually solving it.

 

[TSwizzle]

This is what we have to put up with in LA County under Gascon;

Woman thrown towards Pasadena traffic, beaten on road by stranger

Gascon will probably be voted out come November.

 

[bilby]

It was a rhetorical question the same way "why is the sky blue?" is a rhetorical question

Rayleigh scattering of sunlight by Nitrogen and Oxygen molecules, whose dimensions are ideal for scattering electromagnetic radiation at the red end of the visible light spectrum, such that mostly it is the blue and violet end of the spectrum that reaches the ground, and hence our eyes. The incident sunlight at the red end of the spectrum is preferentially guided 'around' the edges of the planet by this mechanism, which is why both sunrises/sunsets, and the Moon during a total lunar eclipse, appear red.

It has been brought to my attention that I have made a gross error in the above, for which I apologise.

It is (of course) the blue wavelengths that are scattered by O₂ and N₂, hence those wavelengths reaching the ground from directions other than directly looking at the Sun, so that the remainder of the sky is blue.

Thanks to @Shadowy Man for kindly pointing out my mistake. And for even more kindly doing so offline.

I am not sure how important this is in the context of the thread, but I do at least try to avoid being wrong in public forever.

Everyone makes mistakes; That's why Biros have erasers.

 

[Tigers!]

I am not sure how important this is in the context of the thread, but I do at least try to avoid being wrong in public forever.

Everyone makes mistakes; That's why Biros have erasers.

Try one of these. Choose your favourite colour.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This is what we have to put up with in LA County under Gascon;

Woman thrown towards Pasadena traffic, beaten on road by stranger

Gascon will probably be voted out come November.

Man, almost like crime never existed in LA County 30 years ago.

 

[repoman]

That guy needs to be in prison or in a prison alternative psych ward for at least 15 years.

 

[Elixir]

This is what we have to put up with in LA County under Gascon;

Woman thrown towards Pasadena traffic, beaten on road by stranger

Gascon will probably be voted out come November.

Man, almost like crime never existed in LA County 30 years ago.

Why don’t y’all get rid of Gascon, Swiz? Obviously that would get rid of crazy people because they’d stick to him when he leaves.

 

[TSwizzle]

That guy needs to be in prison or in a prison alternative psych ward for at least 15 years.

Los Angeles is an open air psychiatric ward these days.

 

[bilby]

That guy needs to be in prison or in a prison alternative psych ward for at least 15 years.

Los Angeles is an open air psychiatric ward these days.

Oh, is that why you live there?