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Another Fucking Mass Shooting At US School

Saw some footage of the dead people, they were either white of fairly light skin latinos.

He looked fairly light and white-ish and was shot in the head with a massive pool of of blood.
 
There are blonde people from Mexico as well.
Some, not many. And just because there are some blond people in Mexico does not say anything about Garcia and Tarrio.
Being Hispanic does not mean that you cannot be a white supremacist.
But being non-white makes that non-credible.

Look at Enrique Tarrio, recently convicted of sedition, along with a bunch of other serious offenses.
I do not think he is a white supremacist either. Or that "Proud Boys" are. Right wingers? Yes. But those are two different things.
 
It was the second deadliest mass shooting in the U.S. this year and the second in Texas in a little over a week."
Second deadliest - of 200

Whenever there are 2 or more mass shootings, one of them will be the 2nd deadliest.
How many mass shootings occur in the US? The mall shooting is off-topic for this thread. :(

Though I find the posts in denial about right-wing white supremacists being Hospanic quite amusing. Almost like they are insulted that a Hispanic can be among them,
 
There are blonde people from Mexico as well.
Some, not many. And just because there are some blond people in Mexico does not say anything about Garcia and Tarrio.
Being Hispanic does not mean that you cannot be a white supremacist.
But being non-white makes that non-credible.

Look at Enrique Tarrio, recently convicted of sedition, along with a bunch of other serious offenses.
I do not think he is a white supremacist either. Or that "Proud Boys" are. Right wingers? Yes. But those are two different things.
It's interesting who is 'white' and who is not. I used to work with a bunch of people, largely from the Middle East, but not entirely--there were south Asians and Eastern Asians in the group as well, and a few (white) Americans. Except for the Americans and myself, no one in that group would be called 'white' by other Americans. Most (but not all) of the Middle Easterners would have been highly insulted if you had insinuated that they were not white. A few were much more dark skinned. I had not realized that there was a 'color scale' until my boss, who had much darker skin and his wife, a lighter skinned woman had a child. The lighter skinned quietly, with some satisfaction, would say about the baby: You can't even tell! because the child more closely resembled his mother. Later, when I was promoted and needed to interview replacements for my former job, they absolutely refused to hire a very beautiful, intelligent, well spoken, very qualified black woman---because she was black. I found it amusing that the women who were pursued within that place of employment were always blonde. Thankful, but amused. Another American co-worker, a brunette, was quite pretty, much prettier than the other women who were considered 'desirable' but who would have been seen as quite....average had their hair not been blonde.

My father, who like me, has dark hair/eyes and who tanned very easily and spent a lot of time outdoors, so was perpetually tanned, once picked me up from the airport. He was uncomfortable with who I was working with, because of their perceived race/color. He very cautiously asked me 'how dark are they' and I immediately touched his forearm and told him they were about 'that dark.' Which was true of most but not the ones who were quite dark skinned. A couple were lighter than my father's tanned arm.
 
How white is white enough to be considered white? Probably depends on the shade of the person answering




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Shooter was a typical neonazi racist of the sort that sends Right Wing Extremists into Jim Jordan fast talking rants about BLM and Property Damage.
But he could have killed 8 people that fast with a revolver, if he was really really really really good. So no need to restrict access to semiautomatic weapons …
It’s bad enough that our Constitutional right to carry machine guns has been assaulted by the libs!
 
There are blonde people from Mexico as well.
Some, not many. And just because there are some blond people in Mexico does not say anything about Garcia and Tarrio.
Being Hispanic does not mean that you cannot be a white supremacist.
But being non-white makes that non-credible.

Look at Enrique Tarrio, recently convicted of sedition, along with a bunch of other serious offenses.
I do not think he is a white supremacist either. Or that "Proud Boys" are. Right wingers? Yes. But those are two different things.
It's interesting who is 'white' and who is not. I used to work with a bunch of people, largely from the Middle East, but not entirely--there were south Asians and Eastern Asians in the group as well, and a few (white) Americans. Except for the Americans and myself, no one in that group would be called 'white' by other Americans. Most (but not all) of the Middle Easterners would have been highly insulted if you had insinuated that they were not white. A few were much more dark skinned. I had not realized that there was a 'color scale' until my boss, who had much darker skin and his wife, a lighter skinned woman had a child. The lighter skinned quietly, with some satisfaction, would say about the baby: You can't even tell! because the child more closely resembled his mother. Later, when I was promoted and needed to interview replacements for my former job, they absolutely refused to hire a very beautiful, intelligent, well spoken, very qualified black woman---because she was black. I found it amusing that the women who were pursued within that place of employment were always blonde. Thankful, but amused. Another American co-worker, a brunette, was quite pretty, much prettier than the other women who were considered 'desirable' but who would have been seen as quite....average had their hair not been blonde.

My father, who like me, has dark hair/eyes and who tanned very easily and spent a lot of time outdoors, so was perpetually tanned, once picked me up from the airport. He was uncomfortable with who I was working with, because of their perceived race/color. He very cautiously asked me 'how dark are they' and I immediately touched his forearm and told him they were about 'that dark.' Which was true of most but not the ones who were quite dark skinned. A couple were lighter than my father's tanned arm.
Funny... not white enough, but rarely do they protest about how lacking in supreme white supremacists usually are.
 
They actually really like to cite the presence of non-whites in their various groups, for this very same reason. "See, we can't be white supremacists, look at that Black guy over there!" If you see a photo shoot of the top brass of any of these far right outfits, they are usually as careful as any Democrat to make sure there's a token non-white in frame.

Of course, insisting that no Spanish speakers nor individuals with darker complexions can be considered white is itself a white supremicist dogwhistle. You'd think we'd have moved on as a country from the One Drop Rule, but apparently not. Lot of posters in this thread unintentionally outing themselves as, at the very least, having very strong views about the "purity" of white blood and how little non-white ancestry they believe it takes to dilute that supposed purity. Yeah, we see you folks.
 
Of course, insisting that no Spanish speakers nor individuals with darker complexions can be considered white is itself a white supremicist dogwhistle. You'd think we'd have moved on as a country from the One Drop Rule, but apparently not. Lot of posters in this thread unintentionally outing themselves as, at the very least, having very strong views about the "purity" of white blood and how little non-white ancestry they believe it takes to dilute that supposed purity. Yeah, we see you folks.
Hey I spent a lot of time and trouble becoming as white as I am. I could have just saved all that effort and been black, or put in maybe half the effort and been Hispanic or Middle eastern, but no - I toiled and sacrificed and nobody is going to take away my white privilege!
 
That kill ratio would require an expert with any other kind of weapon.
That's just not true. Mauricio Garcia killed 9 and wounded 7. Seung-Hui Cho (VT Tech) had a higher kill ratio and much higher total casualty number (32 killed, 17 wounded) with a couple of handguns. And he was anything but an expert marksman. Less so than Garcia, surely, who at least had some military training.
You keep failing to tell that the victims were locked in a lecture hall by the killer. Shooting fish in a barrel. It's not equivalent to shooting people in an outlet mall parking lot.
 
This thread has screencaps from the shooters ok.ru (Russia based) social media account. Has Nazi images, an incel screed, and images of the Allen mall with charts of its busiest times. Appears to have been a fan of Nick Fuentes and Tim Pool.

 
As to whether he was a white supremacist. He also wrote about how liked to say "white power" and "final solution" to his chemistry teacher.

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How white is white enough to be considered white? Probably depends on the shade of the person answering
That is why I have never been a fan of <insert favourite colour here>- supremacists labels. They just hate others for what ever reason. The colour reference means nothing.
 
How white is white enough to be considered white? Probably depends on the shade of the person answering
That is why I have never been a fan of <insert favourite colour here>- supremacists labels. They just hate others for what ever reason. The colour reference means nothing.
Not at all. It's a very convenient way to tell at a glance who you're meant to despise.

There's nothing more embarrassing than being a Nazi and finding out after years of friendship that your best mate is a Jew. It totally fucks up your worldview.

Hating people based on their skin colour makes such errors far more unlikely.

Back in the UK, violent losers selected victims based on football team allegiances, which swapped skin colour as an indicator for scarf colour - though of course most of these lunatics were also deeply racist, and not averse to kicking the shit out of someone for being black if they couldn't find anyone wearing a red scarf (or a blue scarf, if they were red-scarf wearers themselves).

Tribes need a quick and easy way to identify their enemies.
 
What did this guy look like?

If he was "Hitler's Dream" I have little doubt that his picture would be plastered everywhere.
 
There are blonde people from Mexico as well.
Some, not many. And just because there are some blond people in Mexico does not say anything about Garcia and Tarrio.
Being Hispanic does not mean that you cannot be a white supremacist.
But being non-white makes that non-credible.

Look at Enrique Tarrio, recently convicted of sedition, along with a bunch of other serious offenses.
I do not think he is a white supremacist either. Or that "Proud Boys" are. Right wingers? Yes. But those are two different things.

I believe you when you say you don't think the Proud Boys aren't white supremacists.
 
There are blonde people from Mexico as well.
Some, not many. And just because there are some blond people in Mexico does not say anything about Garcia and Tarrio.
Being Hispanic does not mean that you cannot be a white supremacist.
But being non-white makes that non-credible.

Look at Enrique Tarrio, recently convicted of sedition, along with a bunch of other serious offenses.
I do not think he is a white supremacist either. Or that "Proud Boys" are. Right wingers? Yes. But those are two different things.

I believe you when you say you don't think the Proud Boys aren't white supremacists.

The  Proud Boys usually deny any white supremacist ideology, although they certainly participated in white supremacist demonstrations. However, they are sometimes described as " alt-lite". They characterize the alt-right as more into white supremacy, whereas they merely support "Western culture", which is associated with  White genocide conspiracy theory. Nobody is really fooled, but it makes some on the right less embarrassed to associate with them. Roger Stone was considered an honorary member and acted as the liaison with Donald Trump.
 
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