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Politesse said:
This whole mental health fiasco was created by our most famous Republican governor...
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Who left office almost half a century ago. How long are California Dems going to use that as an excuse for their inaction?
Instead of wasting money on the racist reparations committee, Gov. Goodhair could have been fixing the state's mental health system.
 
Derec said:
Politesse said:
This whole mental health fiasco was created by our most famous Republican governor...
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Who left office almost half a century ago. How long are California Dems going to use that as an excuse for their inaction?
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Well, I certainly share that criticism, but how the hell is electing a Republican supposed to help? The two parties are more or less in agreement on this point. Do nothing, then point fingers. Completely useless.
 
Politesse said:
And whose fucking fault is that? The last thing we need is more Republicans shoving even more people out of care and into the streets.
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California is effectively a one-party state run by Democrats. San Francisco is a one party city.
How are you blaming Republicans for this?

I note that the response to the incident was swift, and concluded with the woman's arrest. Isn't that what you want?
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Yes, since the woman dropped her gun the cops were able to take her into custody, which is a good outcome.
On the other hand, had they been forced to shoot her, it would not have been their fault.
 
Derec said:
Politesse said:
And whose fucking fault is that? The last thing we need is more Republicans shoving even more people out of care and into the streets.
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California is effectively a one-party state run by Democrats. San Francisco is a one party city.
How are you blaming Republicans for this?

I note that the response to the incident was swift, and concluded with the woman's arrest. Isn't that what you want?
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Yes, since the woman dropped her gun the cops were able to take her into custody, which is a good outcome.
On the other hand, had they been forced to shoot her, it would not have been their fault.
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That is not an answer. If Larry Elder were governor, what would have been different about this situation, and why would that have been better?
 
Politesse said:
That is not an answer.
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Of course it's an answer. The Dems run California. Their bear responsibility, not a hypothetical Republican governor.
If Larry Elder were governor, what would have been different about this situation, and why would that have been better?
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I don't know. Larry Elder was certainly not a great candidate.
Having effective one-party rule doesn't just lead to rot in the governing party, which is very evident in California governor's mansion and the state legislature. It also leads to atrophy of the opposition party.
 
I mean, you're not wrong about the general atrophy of both parties, but where does that leave us? You want "something to be done", but despise progressives, the only wing of the government willing to so much as advocate for action on social issues. You offer, as always, no real solutions to any of the issues you want us to scoff at or clutch our pearls about every time you repost the layest outrage from the British tabloids. What's the point of the endless outrage machine if it accomplishes nothing?
 
Robert Greenwald on Twitter: "In 2022, ..." / X
In 2022, police unions, right-wing orgs and big tech joined forces to recall San Francisco’s district attorney Chesa Boudin.

A year since he was replaced with someone who was "tough on crime," here are SF's crime stats:

Vehicle Theft: ⬆️ 10.5%
Homicide: ⬆️ 23%
Robbery: ⬆️ 13%

Beyond Bars Sneak Peak

"Beyond Bars" simultaneously tells the story of progressive legal reformers who fight for public safety and resist the unjust and racist system designed to lock people up.

*Stats from SFPD's website*
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Right-wingers got what they wanted, but it failed.

Seth 🌹🆓 on Twitter: "@robertgreenwald Turns out progressive/leftists have been correct about crime all along." / X

Katalin Pota ☮️☮️☮️ on Twitter: "@robertgreenwald @Mivasair "Tough on crime" like Eric Adams?😀😀😀" / X
 
Politesse said:
Saw this tweet this morning:

Don't always agree with Woodliff, but in this he ain't wrong! My man and I were hanging out in the Haight this last weekend, and it felt more like my "the old days" than it has in years. Noot had business out the door, the park was "lit" on any number of levels, someome started a random ass poetry thing, it was great. People need to loosen up and realize that change isn't always the end of the world!
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By "lit", are you referring to dumpster fires? That I would agree with. :D

This is the SF most people are seeing these days:

 
Derec said:
Having effective one-party rule doesn't just lead to rot in the governing party, which is very evident in California governor's mansion and the state legislature. It also leads to atrophy of the opposition party.
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It’s hard to believe that giving Republicans more political power in California would lead to better solutions of the mental health crisis.

But I admit to not being fully versed on the policy ideas that Republicans have put forward on mental health. Have any citations for me to check?

Certainly the Democrats aren’t doing a good job of it here but it’s hard to see how having a powerful opposition would make them more effective in this issue. What are your thoughts here?
 
Shadowy Man said:
Derec said:
Having effective one-party rule doesn't just lead to rot in the governing party, which is very evident in California governor's mansion and the state legislature. It also leads to atrophy of the opposition party.
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It’s hard to believe that giving Republicans more political power in California would lead to better solutions of the mental health crisis.

But I admit to not being fully versed on the policy ideas that Republicans have put forward on mental health. Have any citations for me to check?

Certainly the Democrats aren’t doing a good job of it here but it’s hard to see how having a powerful opposition would make them more effective in this issue. What are your thoughts here?
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Same as everything else--make the suffer enough they reform.
 
Visited a friend in North Beach this weekend, and lemme tell you that place has just become unsurvivable since Governor Newsom took office. His damned necromancer spies are everywhere, raising demons from these weird blue glass skylights embedded in the sidewalks, that then chase down passing Christians and force them to give false testimony in union disputes. Once proud churches and strip malls have been converted into roller derbies, with dangerously sloping floors. Babies give birth to additional babies right there in the street, then eat them and steal their Calfresh credits to buy diapers and drugs with, a common local scam. The frequent earthquakes the City is known for now cause dangerous "tsunami" waves amid the plastic needles that have accumulated in all the little valleys, as you can see almost shoulder deep in places. Worst of all, I hear Nordstroms might be leaving by the end of the month. Nordstroms! Goddammit man, they had some of the nicest toilets in town, even if you did have to bribe a guard to use them. Where the hell am I going to piss now?

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Hellmouth: it's the only word that could describe the utter squalor.

Whatever you do, Republicans, don't come to Newsom's San Francisco. Your hearts are in the right place, but it's just not worth the risk. Stay home. Stay safe.
 
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Hm, picking and choosing neighborhoods are we? Joke's on you, I got off at Powell and walked up. I consider myself fortunate to have survived, if not untainted.

It's the name that the doom hawkers love, isn't it? Tenderloin just sounds so deliciously scary. But I'll have you know, Tenderloin or no, your mother was fucking terrified of North Beach. The Tenderloin had nothing on City Lights or the Condor Club in the paranoid conservative delusions of the sixties. Read my lips. This country was never so mortally endangered as when beat poets were allowed to freely roam her streets.

Beat poets!

The terror.

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"I grabbed up the skeleton thick sunflower and stuck it at my side like a scepter,
and deliver my sermon to my soul, and Jack’s soul too, and anyone who’ll listen,
—We’re not our skin of grime, we’re not dread bleak dusty imageless locomotives, we’re golden sunflowers inside, blessed by our own seed & hairy naked accomplishment-bodies growing into mad black formal sunflowers in the sunset, spied on by our own eyes under the shadow of the mad locomotive riverbank sunset Frisco hilly tincan evening sitdown vision."
 
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