Trump confirms plan to declare national emergency and use military for deportations

[Derec]

Show me that definition.

[an 878x1024 pixel screenshot]

1. Why an overly large screenshot vs. just quoting a definition?
2. So I was right. Nothing in the definition includes "opposition to open borders".

I do not automatically dislike people because they are from other countries. Neither am I prejudiced.
But that has nothing to do with a position that immigration should be selective and limited to the level that a country can reasonably integrate.

P.S.: Are you GenZ? Overuse of screenshots is an affliction of that generation.

 

[Derec]

I am irrationally afraid of sharks. I have a phobia a about sharks. I think that is a completely rational fear, even if I live in the Midwest and nowhere near a shark. It's a phobia

Huh?

Anyway, I am not irrationally afraid of sharks. I do not have galeophobia. I have no problem swimming in the ocean. But I do recognize that sharks can be dangerous (even if numbers of shark attacks are low compared to other dangers, like driving to Florida or Tybee Island).
Nevertheless, I do think measures to reduce risks to beach goers are reasonable.

It is certainly silly to suggest that everybody opposed to giving sharks open access to beaches is galeophobic. Which is the equivalent of bilby's position.

 

[bilby]

Show me that definition.

[an 878x1024 pixel screenshot]

1. Why an overly large screenshot vs. just quoting a definition?

Because I am posting from my phone, and that's what apple decided to provide.

2. So I was right. Nothing in the definition includes "opposition to open borders".

Sure it does. The definition, like the border, divides people into "us" and "them", and treats "them" as inferior to "us".

I do not automatically dislike people because they are from other countries. Neither am I prejudiced.

[Citation Needed]

But that has nothing to do with a position that immigration should be selective and limited to the level that a country can reasonably integrate.

P.S.: Are you GenZ? Overuse of screenshots is an affliction of that generation.

Are you joking? One of us posts a stupid number of pictures and GIFs in support of his emotional arguments, and the other is me.

 

[Toni]

I am irrationally afraid of sharks. I have a phobia a about sharks. I think that is a completely rational fear, even if I live in the Midwest and nowhere near a shark. It's a phobia

Huh?

Anyway, I am not irrationally afraid of sharks. I do not have galeophobia. I have no problem swimming in the ocean. But I do recognize that sharks can be dangerous (even if numbers of shark attacks are low compared to other dangers, like driving to Florida or Tybee Island).
Nevertheless, I do think measures to reduce risks to beach goers are reasonable.

It is certainly silly to suggest that everybody opposed to giving sharks open access to beaches is galeophobic. Which is the equivalent of bilby's position.

What I was trying to suggest is that it IS completely rational to be afraid of sharks —and that is actually a phobia. It is not particularly rational for ME here in the Midwest. Oddly enough, I also have no problem swimming in the ocean. But even if I am in a small backyard pool that is heavily chlorinated fresh water, and if someone mentions sharks, I have to get out of the water. Same thing re: alligators and crocodiles. Rational to be afraid of encountering such but irrational to be afraid of encounter one in a backyard pool.

Now: I am genuinely interested in you ( or someone else) articulating their concerns about illegal immigration in the US. I’m interested in their perceptions of the scope of the problem—not just raw numbers—and WHY it is a problem? Talk to me like I’m an idiot. I really don’t get it.

 

[Politesse]

The funny thing is, TSwizzle clearly knows exactly why he's unlikely to be caught up in an ICE raid.

Not how extralegal raids work, my dude.

 

[laughing dog]

Let me get this straight - you want prospective immigrants to pass some sort of political views test?

That is not unprecedented.
Chapter 7 - Attachment to the Constitution

1. Communist Party Affiliation
An applicant cannot naturalize if any of the following are true within 10 years immediately preceding his or her filing for naturalization and up until the time of the Oath of Allegiance:

The applicant is or has been a member of or affiliated with the Communist Party or any other totalitarian party;

The applicant is or has advocated communism or the establishment in the United States of a totalitarian dictatorship;

The applicant is or has been a member of or affiliated with an organization that advocates communism or the establishment in the United States of a totalitarian dictatorship, either through its own utterance or through any written or printed matter published by such organization;

The applicant is or has been a subversive, or a member of, or affiliated with, a subversive organization;

The applicant is knowingly publishing or has published any subversive written or printed matter, or written or printed matter advocating communism;

The applicant is knowingly circulating or has circulated, or knowingly possesses or has possessed for the purpose of circulating, subversive written or printed matter, or written or printed matter advocating communism; or

The applicant is or has been a member of, or affiliated with, any organization that publishes or circulates, or that possesses for the purpose of publishing or circulating, any subversive written or printed matter, or any written or printed matter advocating communism.

Or this:

3. Nazi Party Affiliation
Applicants who were affiliated with the Nazi government of Germany or any government occupied by or allied with the Nazi government of Germany, either directly or indirectly, are ineligible for admission into the United States and permanently barred from naturalization.[21] The applicant is responsible for providing any evidence or documentation to support a claim that he or she is not ineligible for naturalization based on involvement in the Nazi Party.

Why should Islamofascists be treated any differently?
Especially when they were allies in Hitler's day:

A precedent of a bad idea doesn’t make the idea a good one.

BTW, we let Nazis in if we thought they’d be helpful.

 

[thebeave]

This guy has some good common sense ideas on immigration. Is there something with his plan?

 

[ideologyhunter]

Unfortunately, there was a gentleman waiting in the wings with a story about...THEY'RE EATING THE CATS AND DOGS!!!